Eh, even in context of tech-savvy users it is still questionable. It is not like tech-savvy users do not need to get from place to place in time with public transport or an car, they are just a regular people, just like non savvy folks.

I, for example, could consider myself one (tech savvy), but even I can not deny that this projects and services kind of… stink, and not usable as big corpo solutions.

Do not get me wrong, I am in love with OpenStreetMaps, with Open Food Facts (and related projects like open prices facts), with Mangrove Reviews, and so on, and I contribute when I feel like it, but damn me if there would had been usable programs and UIs for using Transitious service (and especially with fully offline functionality), or program that use Open Food Facts data for anything even remotely useful (I once made feature request to CoMaps about adding open food facts data, so it can be used for searching food and non-food items on map or opening place and scrolling through list of items it has with prices, but this PR was quickly closed as too niche ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , and then couple months later we have mangrove reviews, which is even more niche and has even less data but hey, what do I know), and for other related projects.

A new project, called “Mangrove Reviews”, has been quietly

Calling it a new project is a bit of an stretch, I would say, considering this project was around for maybe 6 or so years.

Also, for anyone unaware, mangrove is not only for reviews of places, but also websites, books, companies. Found a bad site which scams people? Write an review. Found bad company? Review it.

I wish there were more options, such as videogames, software, food and non food (Open Food Facts can be used for identification, in similar vein that OpenStreetMaps is used for places), and more (and more then 1000 symbols per review in general), but currently we have only that.

Why people don’t wanna switch from Gmaps

I do not want to be that person but I think the main reason is people do not give a fuck about any of that. Or just in general not giving enough fucks for anything.

They have working shit on their devices (in this case — Google Maps), which do what they want and have many features, which varies from “nice to have” to “this is very important to me to the point of not being able to live without this feature”. Traffic data, reviews, and so on.

And when you try to introduce something else to them (especially something as fragmented as open source real life data “stack”, OpenStreetMaps + mangrove reviews + transitious + more) — you would not be meet with enthusiasm, especially if this other service is just worse for one or other reason.

What is the point if they want to input some address in, for example, CoMaps, and they get nothing in return because nobody had added that place and address for 10 years and doing address search is hard? (Both of which Google happened to master to a much higher degree then OpenStreetMaps).

However, navigation services like MapComplete and CoMaps

Calling MapComplete an navigation service is definitely a choice. Or CoMaps for that matter, conspidering that they currently are not providing much of an navigational services for public transport, and that their routing engine sometimes can lead with the most weird paths (but this one is more of an issue with OpenStreetMaps data, which only highlights my previous point).

is this real competition yet?

Right now it is definitely not. Many-many-many places lack even single review which says “good place”, so for the most of time you do not even notice that service.

Godot has succeeded on rivaling other game engines like Unreal or Unity

Eh… Maybe in indie, sure, it might shaked Unity somewhat, but many games still made with Unity and other proprietary engines. Big studios still on Unreal and some even switching from their in-house engines to Unreal, so eh.

I’m not sure why, but I prefer doing that, too.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact, that you are less limited to physical world perhaps?

With pencil, paper and rubber you are limited to always sharpening pencil, with rubber you left small bits behind that you need to clean, it does not even fully erases markings, and if you apply too much of a force — you can even tear up paper. And so on.

While with tablet you have the comfort of using pen-like object, but with less limitation of our whimsy physical word. You can even configure pressure and stuff.

Huh, thank you, I will check out lessons from there, but I am not going to lie - the amount of stuff that this site tries to connect to and run, and the design of it makes me upset, haha.

домохозяйства

Household?

Maybe this bridge thing is barely working?

Is this normal that I joined this chat from matrix, but I see no messages?

maybe, but I am not so maybe that is why

Not exactly 1 to 1, but it is also possible to use Jellyfin for this purpose.

My PC also has Firefox on it. Is it a Firefox Machine? But it also has Steam. Is it a Steamfox Machine?

Richard Stallman, is that you?

Feeling lonely more often that I like to.

The actual webview that is dead https://github.com/Divested-Mobile/maps

This fork is active and fixes stuff if something is broken, so at the very least it will be alive a little longer. Last release was 5.0, 2 months ago, with fixes for street view.

Gmaps wv is a dead project

Meh, not really. It is absolutely not dead for my usecase, for example. You still have streetview to some extend, still more full information about some places compared to OpenStreetMaps, photos, reviews of places, sometimes more correct pathways. So not exactly dead project.

It will become dead once google will entirely block anonymous access ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Google is actively breaking anonymous access to gmaps, so those things are also breaking

Yes, I am aware of that, but until google completely make not possible to use their maps anonymously — something akin to gmaps webview will have its use.

Contirbuting to open-source, open data and so on!

For example, why not contribute to OpenStreetMaps? You will help others and also will be going around your city more, possible discovering more interesting stuff :)

Or why not contribute to OpenFoodFacts? Adding prices, updating data, fixing wrong data - so much fun! And useful.

Or did you know that there is open review system, including places on openstreetmaps, companies, books? https://mangrove.reviews/ It is notably used in CoMaps. You can check plaes that you had been in and inform people about good/bad aspects of said place!

And more! Making world a slightly better place together.

• gmaps wv is out of development for 4 years now and doesn’t work very well anymore.

There is actually active fork of gmaps webview, which works fine (for now anyway): https://github.com/woheller69/maps

That is great, keep on on keeping on!

I don’t agree that german is a beautiful language

I recently got a chance to talk here, on Lemmy, with a German, who describe German language as, and I quote:

“But german itself sounds like two machine-guns having sex.”

for all its Artikel and grammatical complexity

For people who are already know languages that are gendered and quite complex (which is true for… Quite a lot of languages actually) this is not a hard part. Most of the stuff is already exist in other languages in one way or shape. You just need to wire concepts from your language to German, which surprisingly is working, for the most part.

The problem is, that most of this concept in German language does not rely on some logic to follow or consistency, but rather RULES, EXEMPTIONS TO RULES, and remembering everything, because it is the only way.

Example of this is gendered words aka Artikels. You have words Apfel. That’s it. How do you know it is “he”? You don’t, you need to remember. You don’t have anything to guess or using simple solution to deduct gender. There is one oh many rules like “alcoholic beverages are him” with exception of beer because it is “it”. And that is how it work in German language.

Recently we started learning such weird concept as “verbs of moving” which determine if it going to be “ich habe etwas gekauften” or “ich bin nach Hause gekommen”. How to I differentiate? I do not know, but apparently “tanzen” is not about moving, despite the idea of dance is to move, so it is “habe”, not “bin” ☹️

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

I don’t know how they are known in English speaking world, sorry! Also I think majority of people not interested in any of that, so we probably did not lose much in this case.

Can confirm, too. I am not German, just learning it due to my living situation, but this language feels like getting beaten in a dark alley. I though my language is complex on all this grammatical, syntax and so crap, but nope.

Ahh, okay, yeah.