Yes, he took the action of sending them even more weapons than what congress had appropriated.
Thank goodness Trump stopped that, oh wait
Also you ever notice that people barely talk about the genocide anymore?
We know there’s no way to change Trump’s opinion on Palestine, and now we are fully focused on stopping him from starting new wars or sending ICE around the country to murder dissenters. Those that cared now have to focus on pressing domestic issues. If Kamala was president we’d still be focused on ending the genocide and there was at least a chance there would have been an end or progress, but now the current trajectory is the genocide will not be stopped and we’ll probably not have elections again
There was no way of “changing Kamala’s mind.” If there was, it would have been through exerting pressure before the election. Once she knew that pro-Palestine people would fall in line even when she was 100% pro-Israel, she would have absolutely no reason to change positions, if anything, she’d be more likely to become more pro-Israel, because the pro-Israel voters would be more likely to be swing voters. This is why the ideology of “lesser-evilism” is fundamentally incorrect, and how it led to politics shifting further and further right to the point we’re at now.
Please explain exactly what mechanism do you think could’ve been employed to change her mind. Protests? There were widespread campus protests during the election season, and she still didn’t respond to them at all.
And why would she? The left has a proven track record of falling in line behind the lesser evil, no matter how much bluster there might be. Based on that assumption, the politically smart move (if all you care about is winning elections) is to completely ignore all of the left’s demands and keep moving further and further right forever. Now, we have something to show that our words are not meaningless, hollow threats. If there is any possibility of stopping the rightward shift through electoralism, this is it.
we’ll probably not have elections again
Obviously we will. Not that it will matter, because the two party system is completely fucked and y’all refuse to do anything about it.
Damn you people are dense. It’s not like the sitting president has been talking about canceling elections…oh wait
All you voting objectors did was lead to more dead minorities. The people Trump’s new Reich is targeting. We have a fascist military in our streets killing people and all you can do is still whine about how Kamala was flawed.
Obviously, you can’t be reasoned with, so I won’t bother. Just know that I’m just as committed to my approach as ever.
When the next election happens (after you wipe the egg off your face) I suggest you take into account that people like me exist, and that we’re not bluffing, and we’re not going to “come to our senses,” and you should factor that into your evaluation of which candidates are actually electable.
Incorrect, it needs to change. I didn’t have the power to change it in the moment. There was only one of two outcomes my vote could influence that day. The good option was nonexistent
It’s happening in another country on the other side of the planet, champ. Contrary to what you may believe, the U.S. isn’t world police. We don’t stop genocides in other countries with the wave of a hand or cast of a vote.
The genocide was happening with Kamala or Trump. Trump gives it two big thumbs up. Those who didn’t vote or voted 3rd party gave Trump the permission to make an already bad situation way worse for Palestinians.
Found the simpleton unable to critically think that doesn’t understand how not voting or voting for candidates that literally CANNOT win helps the worst candidate that CAN actually win.
The worst candidate who is now WAY, WAY worse for Palestinians.
Good job, kid.
EDIT: Oh Christ. You’re from .ml. Now it’s all starting to make sense.
Funny, I thought Trump voters were responsible for Trump being in power, not the people who didn’t vote Trump.
That’s because you have no capacity for critical thought and don’t grasp how not voting or voting for 3rd parties that cannot win actually helps the WORST candidate who CAN win.
No idea what you’re talking about. Sounds like nonsense from an unserious person.
Here’s a fact.
In 2024 the 3rd party candidate with the most votes (not Claudia de la Cruz, lol) only got half of a single percent of the total votes cast. Proving that a 3rd party candidate for president stands absolutely zero chance of winning. Which makes sense since no 3rd party has any presence in our political sphere whatsoever, including zero members in Congress.
So you appear to be some dumbass telling people to consider the electability of their candidates while shitting on your own vote with Claudia de la Cruz, an unelectable loser.
Good job, champ. You’re a real icon of critical thought.
The person you’re responding to literally points out that when a Democrat was president the focus was entirely on Israel/Palestine because people KNOW that Dems can be pressured by their base, which is exactly why Biden was replaced with Kamala. And they even point out that now there’s basically zero focus on Israel/Palestine because everyone knows Republicans don’t give a flying fuck about pressure regarding that subject, or really any subject.
Like, how much more do you need your hand held before grasping a basic concept?
Obviously we will.
Did…did you pass your world history classes? Do you have a firm grasp on world history?
All existing facts point to this administration working to erode our electoral institutions. All existing facts indicate that due to their existing crimes, and those they have yet to commit, the Trump administration will do whatever necessary to remain in power and avoid prison (or worse). You can absolutely expect martial law and an attempt to delay or outright cancel the elections come November 2027. And even worse in the few months between the election and inauguration if Dems somehow win those elections, if they even happen.
If you don’t think it can happen here, you are a fool.
Thank goodness Trump stopped that, oh wait
Also you ever notice that people barely talk about the genocide anymore?
We know there’s no way to change Trump’s opinion on Palestine, and now we are fully focused on stopping him from starting new wars or sending ICE around the country to murder dissenters. Those that cared now have to focus on pressing domestic issues. If Kamala was president we’d still be focused on ending the genocide and there was at least a chance there would have been an end or progress, but now the current trajectory is the genocide will not be stopped and we’ll probably not have elections again
There was no way of “changing Kamala’s mind.” If there was, it would have been through exerting pressure before the election. Once she knew that pro-Palestine people would fall in line even when she was 100% pro-Israel, she would have absolutely no reason to change positions, if anything, she’d be more likely to become more pro-Israel, because the pro-Israel voters would be more likely to be swing voters. This is why the ideology of “lesser-evilism” is fundamentally incorrect, and how it led to politics shifting further and further right to the point we’re at now.
Please explain exactly what mechanism do you think could’ve been employed to change her mind. Protests? There were widespread campus protests during the election season, and she still didn’t respond to them at all.
And why would she? The left has a proven track record of falling in line behind the lesser evil, no matter how much bluster there might be. Based on that assumption, the politically smart move (if all you care about is winning elections) is to completely ignore all of the left’s demands and keep moving further and further right forever. Now, we have something to show that our words are not meaningless, hollow threats. If there is any possibility of stopping the rightward shift through electoralism, this is it.
Obviously we will. Not that it will matter, because the two party system is completely fucked and y’all refuse to do anything about it.
Damn you people are dense. It’s not like the sitting president has been talking about canceling elections…oh wait
All you voting objectors did was lead to more dead minorities. The people Trump’s new Reich is targeting. We have a fascist military in our streets killing people and all you can do is still whine about how Kamala was flawed.
Obviously, you can’t be reasoned with, so I won’t bother. Just know that I’m just as committed to my approach as ever.
When the next election happens (after you wipe the egg off your face) I suggest you take into account that people like me exist, and that we’re not bluffing, and we’re not going to “come to our senses,” and you should factor that into your evaluation of which candidates are actually electable.
I’ll take egg on my face over blood on my hands.
Here the a list of those you helped ice murder
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/04/ice-2025-deaths-timeline
I didn’t help ICE murder anyone. Is Claudia de la Cruz ordering the raids?
You, on the other hand, do have blood on your hands from the Palestinians you helped murder.
And this is our fundamental disagreement. No action I could take would have stopped the US’s support of the genocide.
However there was 1 action that I chose to take that could have prevented those murders. You chose in-action resulting in more deaths
Genocide is only inevitable because a huge swath of people like you agree that it is something that isn’t too important to fundamentally change.
Incorrect, it needs to change. I didn’t have the power to change it in the moment. There was only one of two outcomes my vote could influence that day. The good option was nonexistent
It’s happening in another country on the other side of the planet, champ. Contrary to what you may believe, the U.S. isn’t world police. We don’t stop genocides in other countries with the wave of a hand or cast of a vote.
The genocide was happening with Kamala or Trump. Trump gives it two big thumbs up. Those who didn’t vote or voted 3rd party gave Trump the permission to make an already bad situation way worse for Palestinians.
If inaction is “helping,” then rest assured that I helped Kamala get elected and am prepared to do so again.
Ah yeah that totally is a logical approach to what was said.
MAGA level logic
Found the simpleton unable to critically think that doesn’t understand how not voting or voting for candidates that literally CANNOT win helps the worst candidate that CAN actually win.
The worst candidate who is now WAY, WAY worse for Palestinians.
Good job, kid.
EDIT: Oh Christ. You’re from .ml. Now it’s all starting to make sense.
Trust me, we know you exist. You’re largely responsible for Trump being in power.
Funny, I thought Trump voters were responsible for Trump being in power, not the people who didn’t vote Trump.
Regardless, I don’t care if you blame me for Trump. Just know that if similar circumstances exist again you will get the same outcome.
So are you politically illiterate or just pretending to be?
When did you stop beating your wife?
When did you stop going to school?
That’s because you have no capacity for critical thought and don’t grasp how not voting or voting for 3rd parties that cannot win actually helps the WORST candidate who CAN win.
The irony.
Again, go get yourself enrolled in some world history classes.
Who did you vote for in 2024? Don’t be shy.
Claudia de la Cruz, I have never been shy about saying that.
So let me dive into this. You literally said
and then proceeded to vote for an unelectable candidate?
Do…do you…I mean is this really just all going right over your head?
Are you really just that unaware?
Follow your leader.
No idea what you’re talking about. Sounds like nonsense from an unserious person.
Here’s a fact.
In 2024 the 3rd party candidate with the most votes (not Claudia de la Cruz, lol) only got half of a single percent of the total votes cast. Proving that a 3rd party candidate for president stands absolutely zero chance of winning. Which makes sense since no 3rd party has any presence in our political sphere whatsoever, including zero members in Congress.
So you appear to be some dumbass telling people to consider the electability of their candidates while shitting on your own vote with Claudia de la Cruz, an unelectable loser.
Good job, champ. You’re a real icon of critical thought.
Oof. What a trash take.
The person you’re responding to literally points out that when a Democrat was president the focus was entirely on Israel/Palestine because people KNOW that Dems can be pressured by their base, which is exactly why Biden was replaced with Kamala. And they even point out that now there’s basically zero focus on Israel/Palestine because everyone knows Republicans don’t give a flying fuck about pressure regarding that subject, or really any subject.
Like, how much more do you need your hand held before grasping a basic concept?
Did…did you pass your world history classes? Do you have a firm grasp on world history?
All existing facts point to this administration working to erode our electoral institutions. All existing facts indicate that due to their existing crimes, and those they have yet to commit, the Trump administration will do whatever necessary to remain in power and avoid prison (or worse). You can absolutely expect martial law and an attempt to delay or outright cancel the elections come November 2027. And even worse in the few months between the election and inauguration if Dems somehow win those elections, if they even happen.
If you don’t think it can happen here, you are a fool.