Won 2 games we should have won and lost 2 games most expected to lose……we cant draw any considerable conclusions yet. Cant even judge the OC ……everyone is green, so you expect errors.
Errors in decisions, errors in play calls, errors in execution, errors in game planning……the only place we can have any reasonable expectations is the defense where we still have our old coordinator.
Im not saying AOC is it (his pocket movement is currently broken) or AP (odd in game decisions) but they are where we expected them to be……no more, no less.
The remaining strength of schedule is tough ….but has winnable games so that’s really where we can evaluate both the coach and qb.
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I’m just wondering if AP is ready to be a full-time NFL head coach. His knowledge of the game and ability to inspire grown men are obviously there.
But the reality is, his NFL coaching experience is 1 season as a LB coach.
Demeco Ryans was an NFL coach for 6 years under Shanahan before going to Houston.
Dan Campbell coached in the NFL for 10 years before taking the Lions job.
Even Vrabel coached for 4 years.
Yeah I wonder if he has enough connections to hire a good staff. He just simply hasn’t worked with enough people.
Honestly think this is where we’ll have to lean on the GM to sell the job which isn’t bad I’d love a staff where everybody works their own stations and not the dictator BS we’re used to. OC call plays and please keep PGraham calling D with AP’s suggestions 🤷🏿♂️
I believe this is true!! Can he get knowledgeable guys to help. I believe he can, and some of our ex-players may want in!!! Theres a few coaches ready to retire!!! It’s getting ripe for new coaches to emerge!!!
Yeah AND Josh McDaniels won multiple superbowls! Like I don’t think that matters at all. The fact of the matter is, it shouldn’t be looked upon negatively to lose to the best offense in the NFL and Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. It all depends if the team is improving week to week. Which it looks like it is, just because you lose a game doesn’t mean it wasn’t positive to the long term. The Raiders kepts the Fins competitive and looked great in the first quarter vs. the chiefs with a rookie QB and rookie coach. So I’ll take it. I think Pierce if he can win a couple more games earned a shot for at least one half season next year.
I feel this but I wouldn’t mind giving him a year when we just saw what Josh did with the team. I feel like this guy will build something and without a ton of film on his own schemes that could really help out next year.
We need to bring in an OC that is hunting for an HC position. Promote the OC if AP ain’t it or let the OC walk after we win a SB. It’s all in the cards
Is this a rational post in this Raiders sub? Unbelievable!
AOC is a serviceable backup and AP has the fire but not the experience or development that a head coach needs. He can get there but 4 games in with a severely limited roster is a lot of challenge for an interim head coach.
I honestly think AOC can be an above average QB for us if we get an O line that plays better, the O line is the problem. AOC has impressed me so far.
I would say won one they should have won, won one that on paper they might have been slightly worse than. Lost two much closer than on paper it should have been. Doing this all with a 4th round rookie. There are no good losses to teams like the chiefs but this team is not a train wreck and should continue as is. Just hope Champ can draft well.
Facts the Jets were almost universally picked to win by the NFL network folks. That same team handed the Eagles their only loss.
We’ve been down this road before- had a decent interim and went off and hired some expensive HC With high hopes and been let down. I like where we are, sure things didn’t turn out good yesterday but AOC threw some impressive balls, Crosby was hurt and going in it was an uphill battle. This may be unpopular opinion but I say stick with this coach and QB and finish out the season. Let’s get maxx healthy and see where we stand.
I generally agree with you, but I disagree with “expected to lose”
If you go by expectations, we’re a bottom tier franchise. We’re not expected to win many games at all. So we’re going to have to start winning games we’re not expected to win, or else there’s no real point to any of it
I would say 4 out of last 5 are considered “winnable.” Denver is looking tougher as the season wears on though, definitely not a layup. Can we go into KC and win on Christmas Day, not likely, but we will need the other 4 to be W’s in order to have a chance at the playoffs. I am looking to see if this team rallies around AP and gets it done or not.
They’re all winnable, yes - but in terms of “expected to win” by the general NFL public…I think MIN, LAC, and KC are all “expect us to lose” games.
My god how many fucking posts on this topic do we need
raiders suck lets move on to next season.
A thing about AOC is his passing tends to be fairly receiver friendly - short ones are generally allow for YAC and long ones often placed over the correct shoulder of the defender. If you can do those two things there is something to work with.
A thing that always bugged me about Carr was the awkwardness of many of his west coast offense type passes, its tough to catch, turn and run when the ball is 18 inches over your head, on you toes or in the space you just left.
Does anyone have a take on how much Bo can actually adjust the playbook mid season? Maybe some of the offensive issues are due to having to mostly still work within McDaniels offense.
Agreed if ur pissed we lost to the fins and the chiefs you need to give your head a shake
True you should dm the pmayers on the team that as they were pissed
I’m torn,…. I want AOC for sure, what his long term role is up in the air, his accuracy is great most of the time and should improve but his pocket movement and footwork needs improvement. I want Pierce to stay, but I don’t think that’s the best long term decision as HC. As far as Bailey just don’t see it, I’d like him to stay on the scouting staff but not as GM even if Pierce gets the HC job.
AP is not the guy he needs to be. He needs to have an experienced assistant head coach behind him to mentor and share some of the duties.
Fuck, coax Dick LeBeau out of retirement for one year. Bring in Greg Williams.