Seems like it’s a well known fact that being poor or even middle class (if that will even exist anymore) in the US disposes one to a very low quality of life (e.g., living in areas with higher crime rates, bad healthcare, the most obvious being cost of living, …etc)

On the flip side, what are some reasons why the top 1-5% percentile would also want to leave the US? (e.g., taxes/financial benefits, no longer aligning with the culture? I would assume mainly the former)

If you are in the top 1-5%, is living in the US still the best place to live? (as many people would like to suggest)

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    10 months ago

    This is an amazingly accurate and concise statement and in the old days would have gotten an award.

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      10 months ago

      Your comment made me realize that awards are no longer available in Reddit. Havent seen them for a while but wasnt thinking about it either.

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      It isn’t really accurate. U.S.A is huge and top 5% have numerous options to live with no crime or income inequality with our borders. I guess if you focus only on big cities it would be more accurate but even then in most cities you can isolate.

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      Well. You can be easily robbed, mugged or beaten up in some sections of the safest countries. Or, conversely, you can live crime-free in just about any place in the world as long as you keep you wits and make good decisions. It’s not a black/white proposition.

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          10 months ago

          The only country I visitted in Europe was France and I felt pretty unsafe there… maybe I did a bad choicing.

          Any East Asian country beat it easily, by far ahead.

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            I’ve been to France many times & have felt both safe and unsafe there. The tourist areas will often have sketchy sections. Particularly some parts of Paris late at night are exactly where you don’t want to be (Was chased by a group seemingly looking to rob me). Outside of the tourist areas, everyone is much nicer to tourists and overall these places feel much more safe. Probably because there’s no massive influx of clueless tourists to rob. The criminals are put out of business in these places.

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            Yeah one of my fav questions on AskEurope was “can a 10 year old girl walk alone to school in your city?”

            There are hundreds of cities around the world where people would say “of course. How else do they get to school?”

            I cannot think of one single city in the US that is both walkable and safe enough for this.

            Maybe Palo Alto, as long as it’s in the same neighborhood so they don’t have to cross a 45mph (70kph) road.

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              10 months ago

              This is possible in every state. The real question is what parent would allow that anywhere in the world?

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                10 months ago

                From the answers just from Europeans, parents in the following capitals (not even including smaller cities and towns):

                1. Vienna (Austria)
                2. Warsaw (Poland)
                3. Berlin (Germany)
                4. Prague (Czechia)
                5. Talinn (Estonia)
                6. Ljubliana (Slovenia)
                7. Amsterdam (Netherlands)
                8. Helsinki (Finland)
                9. Dublin (Ireland)
                10. Bern (Switzerland)
                11. Lisbon (Portugal)
                12. Madrid (Spain)
                13. Reykjavík (Iceland)
                14. Moscow (Russia)
                15. Zagreb (Croatia)
                16. Copenhagen (Denmark)
                17. Baku (Azerbaijan)

                And from personal experience this is also perfectly normal for children to explore the city alone in Singapore, Seoul, Tokyo, and Taipei.

                And again, I’m just listing the capitals where it’s safe. A comprehensive list would be way too long.

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      As an upper middle class American who wants to live abroad, I second this. I also feel like America doesn’t have as much pretty architecture and old cities and history like most of Europe does. (I’ve never been to any other continent so I can’t speak for other places).

      Plus I want to learn French again so there’s that pull.

      Basically I just want to be immersed in another culture and get outside of the bubble of normalcy. Yes it’s nice but it can get boring.

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          10 months ago

          Yay! Except I (26F) have an incredible job and don’t know if I want to leave it. Trying to manifest a move in 1-2 years.

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            Yes to that manifest energy! I visited Germany first at 9 years old and told my self I would live in Europe at some point, took me a while but at 35 my US company had my same position open in Europe and it’s been an eye opening adventure.

            All the best!