I know this probably get asked a lot, but me and Bf want to move with his family out of America. We have all been scouring online for 2 years, but are clueless where to start we have a few countries we have looked into (Germany, Spain, Ireland, New Zealand and the Netherlands) but are open to more options. We just do not agree with what is going on here and considering I am Trans living in Florida, I really want to leave. I (23 M) and he (24 m) are both still in school working (I’m going for neurobiology and him photonics/ mechanical engineering) part-time, while his parents are both still working full time salaried jobs. We want to hopefully finish school, but Would be unable to afford to pay for both of us as I currently am funded by FAFSA. We are willing to work and go to school if it is an option. At this point I am hoping to find somewhere with a more mild climate as it helps the health conditions I do have when I lived in the mountains in Washington more than the sub tropics.
Mostly asking for any ideas of others who have left the US maybe in similar conditions, and how you did it?
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Even if you managed to both get a spot at a European or New Zealand university, there is 0.00000000001 chance you would ever be able to bring family unless you found a high paying job and could sponsor them.
You’re trans, and that’s the reason you want to move? Besides New Zealand, have you actually looked into the conditions for trans people in these countries? It’s hardly any different than a blue state, in fact some blue states give you better protections with your insurance on surgeries and hormones. I live in the Netherlands and it’s not as universally trans friendly as you think, and again, fat chance finding housing for a family in a big city.
You’ll have a much easier time moving to another state. You say you liked Washington. It’s liberal, it’s got the climate you like, and you and your family can easily move there together without any need for a visa or another language.
I have lived in every 48 of the continental us, sure it’s easier to move there, but it’s still the US. I want a different life, different culture, just something else. I know it isnt easy and I’m not looking for a magic solution to all my problems. I’ve just come to the decision I don’t want to live here. Aside from being trans I was an Ex- foster kid and have many traumas in multiple parts of this country, it’s just time to leave .
So there are 190 or so countries. All will offer you something different and all have different culture.
Yet you prioritized Germany, Spain, Ireland, NZ, Netherlands. Why?
I know you mentioned not subtropical but have you considered USVI, Guam, or Saipan. Different worlds but still USA
You’ve lived in 48 states during your first 23 years of life? Don’t forget that anywhere you go you’re still going to be you with your issues (like in this funny video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbwlC2B-BIg)
Easier for some countries if you two would marry first.
My advice? Get organized, get nerdy. Make a list of countries that interest you. Do a two-week deep dive for each, researching everything you can find online about their available immigration pathways, and make spreadsheets or take notes or whatever. Figure out what you qualify for or what you need to work toward.
I recommend this because it sounds like you haven’t done specific research on a lot of these countries you’re considering. For example, you said your parents “have more money and would qualify on their own”, but of the countries on your list, only Spain and Ireland offer golden-visa-type residency permits for people who buy high-value real estate. And that would potentially be an option for your parents (can they buy a 500,000 euro property in Spain?), but wouldn’t help you.
Know that many European countries have fewer services for trans health care than US blue states. It’s not widely available most places, so do your research if being on hormones or getting surgery matters to you. US states like MA and WA, along with Canada, are among the best places in the world for trans health care.
Your options as young people without a lot of money are generally to look for jobs abroad (once you have your degrees and some work experience, because foreign companies won’t sponsor people right out of school), to study abroad, to claim ancestry-derived citizenship if applicable, or to come into a lot of money. You could also get jobs with a US company with foreign offices and have them transfer you internationally. Not as simple as it sounds, but it does happen.
Also, you mentioned several countries where English is not the official language. Do any of you speak a language other than English?
What you’re proposing isn’t impossible, but it is likely a multi-year project requiring a lot of time, effort, organization, money, and a bit of luck.
I do wish you the best. We can help more if you have specific questions.