#android #smarphone

  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    FYI if you like the UI in the promo, just download Niagara. It’s minimalistic and one-handed. The pay wall limits customization, though. Also, there’s phone cases that have keyboards built in if you miss your black berry. Here’s my home screen/ ui:

    Edit: I use viral as my icon pack

    Also swype based keyboards are fucking amazing if you work with your hands.

    • RedC@sh.itjust.works
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      5 hours ago

      The pay wall is actually insane! I bought my lifetime license back when it was 10ish dollars. But I just went to try to get the license for wife, ~45 dollars?!

      Plus I do believe I remember being able to do more in the unpaid version back when I had it, now my wife can’t change clock, show weather, change icons etc etc without paying.

      Their last update was the “artistic” update, with new wallpapers “designed by real artists just for us”. The wallpapers are very sus (ai) in my eyes. Not much has happened on the update front new feature wise for quite a while, just lots of customization.

      I genuinely love this launcher, and I would find it hard to go back, but it is sad to see it go the way I see it going.

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        25 minutes ago

        You can download “modded” versions that have all the paywalled features unlocked, but it seems like a bit of an unnecessary risk when there are so many other great, free launchers out there.

    • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      I’m using it, it’s still really useable without paying. and they offer a subscription and a one time payment, overall, not bad

  • Flax@feddit.uk
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    12 hours ago

    It’s weird how it’s being advertised as a second phone - it looks like it has the same capabilities of any other android phone? Just a smaller screen and a physical keyboard

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      12 hours ago

      They’re afraid to go full bore advertising it as a minimalist alternative. If they weren’t, they would have offered more thoughtful features beyond the (admittedly great) notifications-only home screen. But that’s secretly who this phone is for. I am sure they’re just afraid to pigeonhole it. Calling it a second phone is silly and will sell it to about 50 people but it leaves any other potential buyer to interpret what it is and why they might want it for themselves. It’s a…whatever strategy.

      I know why I want it, and the early bird price (slash threat of the higher price later) is certainly compelling, but:

      1. I just put a fresh Clicks case on my existing phone
      2. I just paid that phone off and I don’t see any need to upgrade
      3. I ordered a Clicks Power Keyboard or whatever they’re calling the other thing they announced at the same time (and doesn’t that purchase contributing to diverting me from the Communicator suggest they’re cannibalizing their own moment by announcing both at the same time?) so I’ll have that as well as my fresh Clicks classic case to buy me further years (one hopes) with my current phone and
      4. I expect that when my phone DOES finally die, yes, I will absolutely look at the Communicator if it’s still around / affordable used (which it should be since it’s affordable new). At that time, it’ll also have come out and been reviewed extensively, so there also won’t be any guesswork in whether it’s worth picking up.
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        They’re afraid to go full bore advertising it as a minimalist alternative. If they weren’t, they would have offered more thoughtful features beyond the (admittedly great) notifications-only home screen. But that’s secretly who this phone is for. I am sure they’re just afraid to pigeonhole it. Calling it a second phone is silly and will sell it to about 50 people but it leaves any other potential buyer to interpret what it is and why they might want it for themselves. It’s a…whatever strategy.

        I do think there is also just an aspect of the people running this company living in a bit of a tech bubble where they are constantly changing their phones and carrying around multiple at the same time. The “second phone” thing gets pushed constantly by tech YouTubers like Michael Fisher (who is behind Clicks), so much so that the term “daily driver” has become normal lexicon for these people. No one in the real world talks about their phone like this, it’s just our phone. We don’t have another one, unless it’s an older model sitting in a drawer somewhere. I’m not sure YouTubers understand this, though.

  • Iced Raktajino@startrek.website
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    16 hours ago

    According to the support ticket I put in last week when I saw the first post about this, the bootloader will be unlockable. Or, at least that’s what they said. So here’s hoping we see nice debloated/de-googled ROMs.

    At the very least, it should be immediately rootable with Magisk.

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    12 hours ago

    I’ve been looking for a mobile Linux terminal so I can ssh without hunt and peck, if this was under $200, it looks like it would be perfect…

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    17 hours ago

    Android 16, $399, 170g, blackberry-like keyboard, “companion” to a bigger phone or can be used as a main phone, 4000 mah presumably non-removable. It does have a wired headphone port, props for that. Main purpose seems to be to declutter the comms apps such as messaging, plus make typing easier with the blackberry keyboard. Meh. I have a full sized but skinny Bluetooth keyboard that weighs a lot less and was like $10.

    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      I think the main purpose is probably to provide a more-usable “dumbphone” experience. I know a lot of people (myself included) who would love to doomscroll less, but need a more full-fat version of Android for work or family. Using Digital Wellbeing and the like gets part of the way there, but not the whole way. With this, the weird aspect ratio means that pretty much all video is going to be letterboxed to a crazy extent, which could be enough to make bypassing those controls feel pointless. And then they used that extra space for a physical keyboard, which is genius. If this thing had a better camera, I’d be all in.

      • SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
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        16 hours ago

        Screen ratio is perfect for emulators, tho - and the keyboard can be customized for their use with KeyMapper. Agree on camera, and replaceable battery other commenter mentioned, tho.

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        16 hours ago

        It sounds to me that the dumbphone experience could be supplied on a regular android phone, with an app or launcher that uses kiosk mode.

      • Flax@feddit.uk
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        12 hours ago

        What’s so bad about the camera? I’m no expert, it advertises a high megapixel but I know enough that megapixel doesn’t mean everything

        • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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          9 hours ago

          I mean, it’s probably fine. I’ve just had a Pixel for long enough that my standards are too high. I have kids, and we just moved across the world, so I take a lot of photos.

    • SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
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      16 hours ago

      How pocketable is that keyboard, tho? Not that I’m all that into a physical keyboard since swype-style entry is my thing, but I can use them as buttons that can be programmed for various tasks and/or used with emulators. Never mind unlockable bootloaders are becoming far too rare these days.

      • solrize@lemmy.ml
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        16 hours ago

        The BT keyboard I use weighs a few ounces. It is not pocketable but I don’t notice it in my backpack. I had one way back that was pocketable and would have been way more usable than a blackberry keyboard, but the keys bounced something terrible, probably due to crap debouncing software inside. I thought of getting another one that might be better, but am happy with the full sized one. I don’t write that much text on a phone anyway. I use my laptop when I can.

        • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de
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          13 hours ago

          This feels so contradictory! You don’t write that much text on a phone - but enough to buy a full-size keyboard for it, that you carry around in your backpack? I don’t think many people like going to that much trouble. An extra thing whose battery status needs to be monitored, an extra thing to turn the Bluetooth for - and where do you place it for typing? Where do you put the phone so you can see the screen? Needs a table.

          • solrize@lemmy.ml
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            12 hours ago

            The keyboard just sits in my backpack, so I have it if I want to type more than a few sentences on my phone, which usually means I didn’t bring my laptop (an old chonker). A smaller laptop would be better tbh, but my old one broke and I haven’t replaced it. Yeah seeing the phone screen while typing isn’t so easy, but I’m a touch typist, so I type first and then look. Battery not too much of a problem tbh. I just charge it up once in a while. I had one previously that used AAA cells (preferable) but I misplaced it.

            It’s not perfect but it beats the phone keyboard and I would say beats a Blackberry-style keyboard. I never used a real Blackberry but I had a Nokia E63 for a while, and it was the same idea. It was better than a screen keyboard but still a severe compromise. You can currently get something like that from M5Stack.

            The tiny BT keyboard with horrible keybounce that I had for a while looked like this:

            https://www.adafruit.com/product/3601

            I like to think the linked one might be better, but I haven’t tried it.

  • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 hours ago

    This feels like a solution looking for a problem. What is the benefit of this ‘companion’? If the point is really just to have a physical keyboard for messages, seems like I’d be better off with one of those little folding bluetooth keyboard for 1/10 the price.

    • BromSwolligans@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Yeah their messaging is a bit fucked. At the same time they announced the Communicator they announced the potentially best and most flexible keyboard accessory they have put out to date, and for remarkably the least cost of anything they’ve released. It’s compatible with any phone or case that supports MagSafe, so…it’s just maybe not the best time to also announce a phone whose defining feature is its keyboard?

      Not to sell it short, because the colored notification LED and notification-centered launcher are both nice concepts, and the squarish screen appeals to the would-be digital minimalist in me, since it will definitely ruin many apps like Unihertz phones have been doing for years. I bet that I could own and really love this phone. The thing is though, the Power Keyboard they announced, which is compatible with my existing phone, costs less than a fifth of the price, and comes out sooner, and does more things (because you can connect it to multiple Bluetooth clients), and the format is more flexible (because you can spin your magnetically-connected phone horizontally, and your phone can maintain a traditional aspect ratio by…being your existing phone), and…yeah. It’s just a weird time to announce a phone and a super cool accessory that almost completely undercuts it.

      Still, I love what this company is up to, and I hope they keep at it.

      • Ilandar@lemmy.today
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        There’s absolutely no way that magnetic keyboard delivers a typing experience even close to this device, which has clearly been designed entirely with typing in mind. Even the normal Clicks keyboards for iPhones were actually kinda dogshit because the phones they were designed for are so large that the weighting was entirely off. The Communicator will be way more balanced in the hand and it has a sloped back for even more comfort and security while typing. It’s a phone for people who prioritise the typing experience above all else, which is admittedly a small group, but it’s not the same as a magnetic accessory keyboard.

    • RedMari@reddthat.com
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      13 hours ago

      I really miss having a physical keyboard to type on, but not enough to carry a separate device that is disconnected from my phone.

      • BromSwolligans@lemmy.world
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        11 hours ago

        It’s meant to be your real phone. They’re just afraid to advertise it that way. It’s truly bizarre to choose this advertising theme, because it almost causes confusion, since there have been phones in the past which truly are companion phones, totally tethered to your primary phone for their connection but besides that little (huge) dependency, were meant to be like…minimalist, distraction-free devices. Advertising the Communicator as a “second phone” absolutely summons up that same idea, in my head at least. If they did some of the app curation or de-googling of, for comparison, the SLEKE phone project, then they could full-throatedly sell this as a minimalist dream. But they don’t want to lock out any kind of customer, and so they’re struggling to make a case for who the customer even is supposed to be here. So they just call it a “second phone” and let you decide for yourself whether it could be a primary or a second or nothing at all. I’d buy it in a heartbeat if I didn’t have a bunch of frugal reasons not to, and if they hadn’t also announced an accessory so seemingly excellent that it encourages me not to give up my current phone for many years to come.

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          7 hours ago

          Hadn’t even seen their accessory. That is so close to what I would want as an accessory. If it was just much thinner and landscape orientation.

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          7 hours ago

          For sure. I meant that as a point for why i would prefer to have that phone as my primary phone rather than a separate keyboard add on. But yeah that idea of it as a serving phone is bizarre except for as work/business phones.

    • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de
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      13 hours ago

      IMHO it’s a dumb idea to have a “companion” smartphone to a “real” smartphone. Either the thing will do for your needs all day, then you don’t need a second one. Or it doesn’t, then it’s not the right one for you. IMO this phone should be way enough and need not be accompanied by anything. We don’t actually need all that functionality in our pockets all day, every day.

      • Flax@feddit.uk
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        12 hours ago

        Looking at the site, it appears to have everything. Even qi wireless charging

  • MynameisAllen@lemmy.zip
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    16 hours ago

    The biggest red flag is it’s a lot of the same folks who put out fxtec pro and that was a bit of a shit show, I’m excited but I’m sure as fuck not going to preorder

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      12 hours ago

      They have other hardware they’ve built and shipped for years, just a keyboard case not an entire phone but that seems to be positively received

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      11 hours ago

      I heard that the designers of that phone were involved with the original Clicks, but it’s kind of an over-generalization to say that because those guys are involved with this by-now well-established company, that this will turn out to be some kind of rip-off scheme. Clicks Technology have delivered on every promise they have made to this point. Even if their products aren’t for everyone, and even if (in my experience) the first generation have some serious issues with wearing down too quickly, they absolutely do make products, they do feel good to use, they do what they say, and there’s no reason to doubt they can deliver on this next one.

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      I didn’t know about that. Just found this about fxtec. I guess it’s smart to be cautious.

      https://community.fxtec.com/topic/4070-now-that-fxtec-is-dead-lets-do-an-autopsy/

      Apparently there’s a tech YouTuber by the name of MrMobile who is also apart of this. I only recently heard of him through MKBHD so I would like to think that there’s some accountability there but honestly you really never know.

      https://youtu.be/P-rj56QjASc

      • MynameisAllen@lemmy.zip
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        14 hours ago

        Yeah I’m in now way trying to point and panic. But after going through the debacle with fxtec I personally will be exercising caution

        That said this device looks like a dream especially if I can get lineage on it

    • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de
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      13 hours ago

      Hiw do you know it’s those people? What’s your source? Fxtec sure was a letdown. Not a complete scam like the Turing Phones, but almost…

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    14 hours ago

    Click Communicator is phone purpose-built

    The ad summary starts with a Russian accent but I don’t know where it goes from there.

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      16 hours ago

      I think that is just a mock up. The keyboard layout is way different from the Titan 2, so I am unsure if the image of the elite is final design.

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        16 hours ago

        Very likely you are right, but I’d give my left arm for modern version of blackberry (with Bb keyboard)

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      11 hours ago

      I’m fascinated by the accusation (guess?) that the Titan 2 Elite and the Communicator share a platform from some common manufacturer. They have the same screen (just to eyeball it; I have not checked the specs to compare so please don’t flame me if I’m wrong) and they both have the top-left punch-out camera. They both look slick as hell and if I was in need of a phone right now I bet I could have a good time with either one, but between them I’ve definitely got a little more brand loyalty for Clicks since I’ve enjoyed their QWERTY experience more, and I also think their launcher looks slick as shit. But I’ve always wanted to love the Unihertz phones I’ve bought and my heart is always open to them finally nailing it one day. If they were built on the same platform and they both turned out to be…ya know, pretty good…I think the world would be in a great place (at least as far as QWERTY resurgence is concerned).

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        It’s more common than people realise within the phone industry. The Titan 2 is using old Blackberry Passport displays and the new iKKO Mind One is using a display that is seen on some handheld retro gaming devices. Fairphone has historically used a lot of generic parts too. These smaller companies generally don’t have the money or power to get everything custom designed, and re-using existing parts ensures long-term stock availability.