Honestly - if my husband: -lied to my about my role in the marriage until immediately after the marriage -let his family ice me out -completely disregards my feelings -disregards the fact that I am depressed & tells me it’s a personal problem -gaslight the shit out of me every time I tried to talk about my feelings

I would probably scream too. I hear ya Kimberly! I’m starting to feel manic for her

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    Tattoos are really looked down upon in India. Only lower caste “untouchables” get them. I wonder if TJ’s family don’t like her for her “Classy Broad” tattoos? There are a hundred other reasons not to like her, I know, but I think his family was put off by those ink marks on her.

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      That’s true, they’re not even cute, they look like prison-tattooed scribbles. They are Jain, who consider themselves high up in the caste system.

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    The only sane and honest person right from the start is Yash.

    “She’s not compatible with our family”

    TJ has just been gaslighting her into thinking the apartment was a temporary solution until they move somewhere else.

    Truth is, TJ knew right from the start he’s going to be living with Yash for their entire lives. And Yash was the only one who pointed that out.

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    I have felt frustrated enough to scream and bang my head in a relationship. I’m not proud of it, I’m ashamed. I feel shame towards myself for hurting and humiliating myself, especially for someone who didn’t care about me. I knew he wasn’t listening to me and I was trying to get his attention to make him care. I didn’t even want to be in the relationship, every time I tried to break up and discuss how we would move out of the shared apartment he would beg me to stay to work on the relationship. It was my first live-in relationship and I didn’t know how to get out. I was raised by parents who hated each other and I thought that was normal. They always told me not to be a quitter. I really thought that I made my bed, now I have to sleep in it for the rest of my life. One day after renewing the lease, he moved out suddenly and left me on the hook for double the rent. At that point I begged him to stay because I was terrified. It took me time to see that it was the best thing that ever happened to me. If he hadn’t left we might have been married, might have had children together, and he would still be in my life. Instead he quickly went on to marry somebody else and then skipped out on her and the wedding bills right after the ceremony. 10 years on and my life is amazing: I have the most incredible husband, a career I love, a house with character, my family. It is possible to have a healthy and happy relationship. I know Kimberley looks really crazy but I get it. I hope she can sort out her life like I did.

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    Her situation overall (gaslighting, narc husband) is similar to my practice marriage. It was hell, brutal and painful. At least she has a voice and isn’t afraid to speak up. I kept quiet until I couldn’t take it anymore and left (when it got physical with myself and him pushing our 3yo.) Sure, screaming at the top of your lungs doesn’t work and makes you look psychotic, but that’s what they want to happen.

    Such shit for her.

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    Okay but we can agree that Kim needs to gtfo WITHOUT Giving her pass for her Terrible Actions such as but not limited to:

    -Complaining and calling names when her apartment wasn’t exactly as she expected. Tends to lash out and name call the minute things don’t go her way -Starting a fight with future brother in law who is out taking her shopping (yash is a tool but her anger added more tension) -She called Yash a dick head (?) infront of TJ despite him expressing how rude / upsetting that language is to him -On the way to the wedding venue she HIT AND RAN on a rickshaw while driving in India. Claiming “as long as you don’t hit a cow, it’s fine” Golly Gee hope the People were ok??? We don’t know because Kim did not care to check. And decided to laugh about. -TJ was afraid to say anything about the damage on his car from the accident for fear of setting Kim off. -Lived in India for a Year and didn’t bother learn any Hindi. Not even conversational. -(Petty) Kim Calling Jenny a cunt when she didn’t agree with her.

    Like of course her situation is miserable and would take a toll on ANYONES mental health but let’s not pretend like she wasn’t unhinged, unstable and miserable from the start. She is an emotional “taker” and taxing person. She needs mental health support. And to stop with the self aggrandizement and spiritual narcissism

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    Kimberly’s emotions are 100% justified. She was kept out of decisions from the beginning, was given half- truths or only part of the information so she couldn’t make informed decisions for herself, was brought into a toxic environment where her partner made no attempt to be on her side…. Her disappointment, sadness, anger is all justified.

    That being said, she is responsible for her actions. Shrieking in someone’s face very rarely actually makes the situation better. I 100% understand how she got there; I even understood the first time when she arrived at the apartment after traveling for probably 20 hours to find that he had kept her in the dark about the progress on the build. I understand how she gets to that point with all the bullshit (figurative and literal) that family puts her through. She still needs to learn the skills to control herself and set boundaries even though she’s justified in being hurt.

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    Ya. I feel like if the cameras weren’t there, TJ would probably start laying hands on her. Idk. I just see it in his eyes. She has been trying her best and she is now falling apart. She needs to run!

    What’s weird is that he defends her to his family but gaslights and insults her to her face.

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    Yeah. I know Kimberly catches flack and people tell her she didn’t “do her research” but living there for a year would most certainly be more eye opening than Google, ffs. Not to mention, TJ married her under false pretenses. He assured her she wouldn’t be expected to be a traditional Indian wife and pulled a bait and switch.

    I felt so bad for her when she was begging TJ for help. There is nothing worse than begging your spouse for some support and they basically tell you to fuck off. Once, I begged my ex husband to help me when I was in the middle of a panic attack. My face was going numb and I was so stressed over working 15 hours a day and was exhausted. I asked him just to take responsibility for his own dinner for a few days and drive himself to work until the overtime was done. He literally laughed in my face while I was in the middle of a break down. Seeing TJ be so dismissive was so triggering for me. I know Kimberly isn’t perfect, I know she is weird, I know she shouldn’t have married TJ. But, the way he treated her was cruel.

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    I feel like everyone forgot that Kim told her husband’s brother months ago how she really feels about living with the family. She does not like them and repels their generosity. Should she have been told Indian wife customs by her husband? Yes. Does google exist? Also, yes.

    Kim brings an American individualistic outlook going into a culture of collectivism and she is resistant to learning how to be a part of HER new family.

    Jenny clocked her in that preview for the tell-all, “entitled little brat.”

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      Does google exist? Also, yes.

      I thought that too when she was upset about not knowing what was going on in the wedding. Like did you not research this at all?

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        Because a lot of the those rituals are only performed by the Brahmins or are esoteric. You’d be surprised how much is unavailable or unreliable on google.

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        Right because people are honest about what they want and google explains every aspect of 1,000,000,000 people’s lives 🙄

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      You’re weird…maybe go experience it for yourself before making random assumptions. I’m Indian and the culture is absolutely suffocating to daughter in laws. 🙄

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      India is not a monolith. Not every family expects the exact same customs, and apparently TJ’s family is especially strict. Plus he blatantly lied to her about it. And you can be collectivist all you want but when it turns into misogyny it’s not okay. Enforced gender roles are not okay. Many Indian women feel that way too.

      People are free to live as traditionally as they want to but it should be a choice. And yes, I mean globally. Culture is not more important than people’s right to self-determination.

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    Clearly, she isn’t getting up at 5 AM to make breakfast for the family and do chores around the house. Can’t help but believe this also extends to her “wifely” duties, because her husband seems to want her gone.

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    Kimberly knew what she was getting into when she went to India. I’m sure knew abut the culture in India so it shouldn’t have been a surprise to her. She thinks she entitled and when the little girl doesn’t get her way that’s when the bullshit starts.!

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    The last we saw of Kimberly was two days after the wedding. She was happy and fixing up the apartment then the poop and pee fiasco and then it is 3-4 months later and she is despondent with depression and feels hopeless and trapped. Why did production not go get updates on her? We knew her formal duties were commencing, we new she had declared her independence to do things her way….why did they not get scenes of her decline. I feel kind of cheated. We see her death scream and TJ running to mummy and the next thing we know she is in a NY studio filming The Tell All. After the buildup for months, I feel the story pre-climax was missed. Maybe they will have a The Other Way More To Love with deleted scenes before Monday that will include what all we missed.

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      I agree! In fact, this whole season felt rushed to me, like they filmed as quick as possible, instead of taking their time to get more details…

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        I wonder how them cutting the show from what used to be two hours down to one hour so they could squeeze The Last Resort and Family Chantel in at the 9:00 hour, did that lead to scenes being cut? I know the season was many months long, but was a lot chopped out because of the shortened length or did they just make up for that by having the season forever weeks long? Very odd that Kimberly’s saga was so chopped up. Even if she wasn’t going downstairs or going out, we could have seen her explain what was happening instead of only showing their breakup fight. Usually there is something after a breakup fight…showing them packing, saying goodbye….nothing….maybe during the Tell All they will show scenes explaining all this.

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        TLC chose to script bs for Jasmine and Gino instead of film Kimberly unravel while TJ is clueless and torn. I’d rather watch Kimberly scream in frustration than Jasmine’s fake crying.

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      Yeah, I’m always curious what the actual filming schedule is sometimes. Very possible in this example that production was in country this whole time, but they were filming other Indian couples.

      There was a moment in Gino and Jasmine’s last full season where they were pretending all the events took place in one trip that Gino had taken to Panama. The problem was for their last few scenes it was obvious that Jasmine had gotten some new plastic surgery and had fully recovered from that. So they were showing two different Gino trips and acting like it was all sequential. Or Gino was there for a long time.

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      I for one am perfectly fine not seeing the decline. Tj is intolerable. TLC probably did it to up ratings for the tell all. Because they are TLC and assume we will tolerate it because the girl screams and cusses when she is (usually reasonably) upset.

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        I’m fine not seeing it as well, but it’s a strange thing to omit from a 20 episode season. Hard to believe this thing started in early July

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        I loved how she managed to work in all the pejorative names he hates to be called…. without actually calling him any of them.

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      Well the Bitch had to know Google to get signed up for the show……so she can’t claim that she or her family never had the opportunity to find out what she was signing herself up for.

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        We’ve had quite a few Indian people and white people married into Indian families comment on how TJ’s family is not normal so I don’t think Google would have helped her. Indian culture is not a monolith… it hasn’t even been United as a singular nation for very long.

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          In India there are many different sub cultures but I can tell you for sure that all of them (except the westernized folk especially from upper middle class to higher) live somewhat the way TJ and his family live.

          1. most indian families are known to live together. If you watch a Hindi teledrama on Netflix you’ll know what this entails.

          2. Indian families treat their mothers like gods and hold their word to the highest regard. So calling him a titty baby isn’t even an insult to him. I’m sure he’s wondering what the fuck she even means by that.

          3. the younger son is treated like a baby.

          These are very common things among Indian cultures that you can find through Google (go to Netflix, YouTube or so many other websites with documentaries and TV shows).

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            Kimberly was aware of this, she even asked TJ if she would be expected to do the house manager role and he lied and told her no.

            Why are so many people ignoring that this happened?

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              Yeah. She knew what she was getting into and when she asked questions he omitted facts (lied). When she asked more questions he just did his stupid cheesy toothy smile and cocked his head sideways. And again deflected. She asked. He just didn’t answer. And she had been there before. He probably most likely as per usual omitted things once again or painted things in such a light so she would be okay with it.

              Both are to blame. Him constantly omitting truths and deflecting and her thinking she can go into a family with her American ways and get her way. She knew what she was getting into (on the family level, how tight knit it is and how living arrangements and things would be.) She thought she could have it her way and has now ran into a wall and she can’t handle it. She is definitely not blameless in all of this.

              TJ shoulda just married a Hindu girl. His brother is smart in saying when he gets married he is marrying a Hindu girl. She knows the program and will hit the ground running.

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                Yeah good points. It was naive she took him at his word cause he does seem to have been lying or withholding info all throughout the relationship and he definitely should’ve just married a Hindu girl, I’m genuinely confused why he didn’t…