Some people don’t believe me when I try to warn them about the content creator grift. I don’t care, I’m coming for all of them if they start spouting shit like this to their audience. They have a responsibility towards their viewers.
Second time I see him tweet shit like this.
At this point he should just stop pretending he’s any sort of leftist. His mental health will thank him.
archive link so he can’t scrub it off the internet: https://archive.ph/XWZD6 (still loading as of posting but should be ready eventually)
If people don’t denigrate him, but criticize him in a friendly manner then i have no problem. It’s just the all too common “character assassination” i have a problem with(, especially for such little things, and even more among leftists).
If it’s just an occasion to discuss about the influence of genetics on behavior then i have zero problem with this, i just hope that people here won’t suddenly hate yugopnik just for that, which is probably unlikely to happen, so i shouldn’t have concerned myself with it.
I suppose that i just didn’t want to resist posting that quote from C.Johnstone.
That quote was what i was alluding to(, while remembering one time when many people on Lemmy falsely accused Nutomic himself of being transphobic, with people exciting themselves over nothing and calling for his resignation, so stupid, the same thing happened for Linus Torvalds because he wrote a harsh email to someone working for him, let’s just focus our anger on more productive things than bringing down people on our side) :
I don’t generally try to operate on hate, myself. Except maybe for the most obvious exploiters of the world, but then it’s more incidental hate as a result of finding out what horrific shit they’ve done, than an active preoccupied effort to hate. Hating someone takes energy. I’d rather put my energy into working out how to dismantle systems of oppression.
I am suspicious of people who purport to be on the left and say stuff like he did though. I feel I have good reason to be, given the history of internet-based “leftists” who are bad at sticking to a clear ideological line. It’s possible he can be corrected on this and change his ways, but his position as e-celeb (however small the level of celebrity may be) makes it harder to directly engage in criticism with him, as peers. So we have to correct and warn people as we can.
As i said in another comment, he most likely doesn’t really believe that people are born to be far-right, it’s more of an insult saying that they were born with some innate cerebral deficiency, and that otherwise they couldn’t possibly develop such p.o.v.
If i’m not mistaken he’s often shitposting, it’s an insult, that’s all, not that deep, nor someone calling covertly for eugenics.
Anyway, if you don’t suddenly hate him now, then ok, i probably overreacted and should have ignored that post.
This sounds a lot like the “schrodinger’s douchebag” excuse:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s+douchebag
Anyway, insults are not just insults. They carry ideology with them. If I were to use a slur against you, it would be carrying water for the ideology of that slur, even if I don’t actively believe in it myself.
That the far-right is mentally ret*rded
Yep, that would be a problem. Directing it at rightists doesn’t give it the characteristics of leftism. It’s still got the rightist stench clinging to it. This is why it’s so important to interrogate reflexes even long after conscious beliefs change. Our habits do not change overnight based on what we believe in.
Yeah, ok, we’re different from the right because we’re differing on some goals AND on some means.
Furthermore, the far-right is just mistaken, everyone makes mistakes, obviously, it’s not a genetic problem.
But i find it funny when he says that they’re innately ret*rded, 🤷
W/e, i won’t take more of your time
Why is it funny to you though? Keep in mind that the connotations of that word are tied to marginalization and caricature. It’s possible you find a caricature funny without realizing that it’s a harmful and hurtful representation of people who have never actually existed in the caricature form, in order to justify marginalizing them. In other words, it may be the joke is on you for thinking you’re looking down on someone and you’re laughing at a specter that was created to justify oppression.
We don’t need to be ableist in order to laugh at the right sometimes. I’ll tell you something I think is funny, when the consequences of their bullshit come back to bite them, like alluded to here: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10509392
You’re right, if other people than the ones i’m aiming the insult at are also hurt, then i shouldn’t hurt them, we can do better indeed.
But that kind of internet trial in his back didn’t please me, as i said before i should have just ignored the post.
It was sincerely very nice talking with you, thanks a lot :) !
proclaims unity
Uses divisive ableist language
Do better
Do they really care though if i use the word stupid instead of ret*arded ?
Is r*tard some kind of official name to designate them unlike stupid, like jew, dwarf, or n*gger, hence why it shouldn’t be used in the context of an insult ?
Well, w/e, ok then, it’s not as if i had any problem with the “mentally challenged” minority.
“they” are human beings
Now you’re juste ragebaiting me(, if not from the start) 🙄
Why does every discussion i have online ends up in a clash, even on Lemmygrad ?
That slur is used against people who are disabled. It was historically created for that purpose, too, in a medical setting by doctors.
Do doctors still call them ret*rd ? And if they now call them mentally challenged, then am i allowed to use mentally challenged as a slur against someone else ?