I’m convinced that these lib posts are trying to break the left from supporting the victims of ICE by acting as snug about their fallacious assumptions in the first place.
We are seeing people actually are and organizing themselves at an unprecedented rate her in the US and its clearly the beginning of a movement willing to learn how to struggle for once.
The liberals are going to be forced to eitheir unabashedly support people defending their communities against the state or fall in line with the Trump regime they say they despise so much.
I’m convinced that these lib posts are trying to break the left from supporting the victims of ICE by acting as snug about their fallacious assumptions in the first place.
i think that’s ascribing to them a degree of organization i don’t think exists
i see it more as people who, confronted with the uselessness of their only political tactic (voting), choose to double down on it rather than reconsider their worldview
The liberals are going to be forced to eitheir unabashedly support people defending their communities against the state
Liberals, by definition, cannot do this without siding with another administration of the state. In this case, the democratic party. When they denounce this duopoly and reject the elections as the method of class struggle, they then cease to be liberals. And protests are not necessarily a renunciation of elections. The people who advocate for voting and claim that we simply need to change the administration of the bourgeois state are not our friends, quite the opposite. And it doesn’t really matter if these libs protest against ICE because it’s mostly performative. There were protests against the Vietnam war, and not much came of it from an organization pov, but we communists should perhaps be blamed for that one, and it’s a similar situation now. The Black Panther Party were pretty much the only ones who were class conscious back then and getting stuff done. It’s their methods we should use now, too.
I’m not talking about the various protests being done against ICE I’m speaking of the real tangible example of multiple communities arming themselves and engaging in community watch nor dissimilar from the panthers.
These community defense organizations will increasingly be seen as necessary and the average liberal will have to be radicalized into either supporting them or into explicitly joining hands with the US regime. We are approaching a situation where at some point a group ICE thugs is going to end up treading on one of these armed communities and getting fired at.
From there we are probably going to see a split between the masses who support community defense and a contingent of liberals who choose to declare that ICE shouldn’t be violently resisted.
I think that liberalism in the US is a rapidly dying position and average Americans are being forced to confront that in real time. The majority of the liberals will have to jump ship eventually, and where they decide to land will be either with or against the anti-fascist struggle.
It’s very early in development here but I can for once say I have a little hope in the US leftist movement.
We’ve also seen the re-emergence of a group inspired by the Black Panther Party in Philadelphia called the Black Lions (though there’s done controversy that I’d like to be more informed on regarding that group).
I’m convinced that these lib posts are trying to break the left from supporting the victims of ICE by acting as snug about their fallacious assumptions in the first place.
We are seeing people actually are and organizing themselves at an unprecedented rate her in the US and its clearly the beginning of a movement willing to learn how to struggle for once.
The liberals are going to be forced to eitheir unabashedly support people defending their communities against the state or fall in line with the Trump regime they say they despise so much.
i think that’s ascribing to them a degree of organization i don’t think exists
i see it more as people who, confronted with the uselessness of their only political tactic (voting), choose to double down on it rather than reconsider their worldview
Liberals, by definition, cannot do this without siding with another administration of the state. In this case, the democratic party. When they denounce this duopoly and reject the elections as the method of class struggle, they then cease to be liberals. And protests are not necessarily a renunciation of elections. The people who advocate for voting and claim that we simply need to change the administration of the bourgeois state are not our friends, quite the opposite. And it doesn’t really matter if these libs protest against ICE because it’s mostly performative. There were protests against the Vietnam war, and not much came of it from an organization pov, but we communists should perhaps be blamed for that one, and it’s a similar situation now. The Black Panther Party were pretty much the only ones who were class conscious back then and getting stuff done. It’s their methods we should use now, too.
I’m not talking about the various protests being done against ICE I’m speaking of the real tangible example of multiple communities arming themselves and engaging in community watch nor dissimilar from the panthers.
These community defense organizations will increasingly be seen as necessary and the average liberal will have to be radicalized into either supporting them or into explicitly joining hands with the US regime. We are approaching a situation where at some point a group ICE thugs is going to end up treading on one of these armed communities and getting fired at.
From there we are probably going to see a split between the masses who support community defense and a contingent of liberals who choose to declare that ICE shouldn’t be violently resisted.
I think that liberalism in the US is a rapidly dying position and average Americans are being forced to confront that in real time. The majority of the liberals will have to jump ship eventually, and where they decide to land will be either with or against the anti-fascist struggle.
Oh, yeah you’re probably right in that case. I’m from Canada, and i have limited knowledge of the grassroots movements going on there in the US.
It’s very early in development here but I can for once say I have a little hope in the US leftist movement.
We’ve also seen the re-emergence of a group inspired by the Black Panther Party in Philadelphia called the Black Lions (though there’s done controversy that I’d like to be more informed on regarding that group).