• angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml
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    The fastest way to get a gawky white american teenager spitting revisionism at you is to plainly state that the Soviet’s were instrumental to winning the second world war.

    b-b-but the Molotov–Ribbentrop pact!!

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      While raping and pillaging away.

      And slaughtering non-russian soviets by the houndreds while sending them in waves. Only a true russian drunk mob could gloriously stick the flag at Riechtag.

      You frothy at the mouth already? Go read documents Kremlin itself released about the Battle of Berlin.

      Murdering your own populace by the millions is a fair game. Russia has been at war for almost every decade of its existence. Since the 9th century.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

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        yeah I’d probably wanna stop the nazis too

        no one tell this guy that raping and pillaging comes standard with armies and warfare. almost like war is bad and has a negative effect on the land and people or somethin idk

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          Nazis by the most part did not. Russians always did.

          Every WWII veteran in Central Europe attested to this. First hand accounts.

          But hey, what do I know, right!

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            The Nazis fucking made rape legal and unpunishable for their soldiers to commit with the May Decree before the onset of Operation Barbarossa you fucking degenerate swine.

            Eat shit you Nazi trash.

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            Wh… What? Nazis were comfortable with murder, slavery, and stealing gold teeth from corpses but drew the line at rape, while the Russians were… What? Extolled to rape by the perfidious Soviet leadership?

            Are you high?

            What do you actually know? Where are you reading this random bullshit?

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                Not even that, because then he was never able to face justice for all the atrocities he committed. If he just had a change of heart, realized he was an irredeemable monster and shot himself out of shame at the peak of his rule it would be commendable. Instead he took the cowards way out when he had no escape, no chance, and was moments away from being captured. That’s not honorable, just another in his long list of lives ended as a direct result of his rule, with the silver lining being that this time his actions couldn’t hurt any more people.

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            There was absolutely sexual violence during the holocaust and the german army absolutely raped their way through both the western and eastern fronts. What did you mean by this? All armies rape and pillage, the US, the brits, the italians, the french, the japanese, even the aussies did it.

            Do you actually think armies full of men just…don’t rape?

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            The USA had literal army recruitment propaganda that advertised the local women of the war torn countries to the would be soldiers.

            Oh wait, you didn’t even use the USA as your “counter-point”, you went straight for Nazi defense?

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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            out of interest, you nazi defender, which central european accounts are those? the hungarians? the romanians? fascist allies of the nazis? amazing that they didnt rape them.

            meanwhile even on natopedia, you can read about it.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Eastern_Front
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_during_the_Holocaust

            your dogshit education enlarged soviet rapes while staying silent on the order of magnitude more rapes committed by the nazis. you’ve been taugth a complete, deliberate distortion about ww2. go read up a bit on the subject because this is just embarrassing.

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                they might. i did. i grew up on the “russians rape but germans were gentlemen” stories too, from the non-jewish landowner side of the family. nobody ever ever mentioned that being non-jewish, wealthy and living in a country allied with the nazis might have had something to do with it.

                the other side of course only survived because the soviets liberated us before they were found and killed.

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        Lets see how long it takes them to passively support the naz- wow only 3 posts down. Anticommunism is always pro-fascism.

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          Passively? The dumbass started ranting about how the ubermensch of the Nazi war machine didn’t commit rape and fought honorably. That’s some explicit Neo-Nazi trash, even Wikipedia will tell you about the millions of rapes those scum committed.

          Anticommunists show their hands almost immediately.