Yes by judicial precedent. Quoting Wikipedia’s article on federal pardons in the United States: According to Associate Justice Joseph McKenna, writing the majority opinion in the U.S. Supreme Court case Burdick v. United States, a pardon is “an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it.”
A pardon issued and accepted (United States v. Wilson set the precedent that a pardon may be rejected by the intended recipient) does not erase an indictment or conviction. Pardoning a convict ends any prison sentence, fine or other punishment but does not erase felon status. For that you need an expungement.
Note: One does not need to be convicted for the president to issue a pardon. A pardon can end a trial before it begins.
Accepting a pardon does permanently satisfy one’s fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. In that way it’s kind of like pleading guilty and being sentenced to reading this piece of paper from the White House. You can’t be tried and punished for this same crime, which means you CAN be compelled to testify about it.
Because you automatically admit guilt when you take a pardon. Please whatever you want, taking a pardon makes you instantly guilty of the crime regardless.
You can also no longer plead the 5th, you MUST answer questions regarding your crimes and the crimes of others.
It’s more like you can plead not guilty but still be convicted. So by accepting the pardon you are admitting you are in fact guilty. Kinda fucked in other situations really.
Depends on your job, any gov job is now an auto-disqualifying him for having a felony. International travel is also a lot harder now if he has a felony.
I’m pretty sure there is no choice. If you’re pardoned then you’re released. You can try and stay in prison but they’ll drag you out just like they dragged you in.
The people creating and supporting that system do deserve it though… it’s just the taxpayers don’t deserve having to pay for their parasitic asses any more than they already have.
I bet he’ll go back for the reparation money
Yeah no joke, he took that pardon didn’t he? Fuck him.
To be fair I would take the fuck out of a pardon if I ever got one. Literal get out of jail free card.
Except you admit guilt by accepting the pardoned and commuting your crime. You can never ever change your plea or answer.
But otherwise, yeah, I agree.
To paraphrase Chris rock “You can look innocent in jail or guilty at the mall”
Why would this be true?
If you pled not guilty, got convicted, and got pardoned, that would imply admitting guilt?
Yes by judicial precedent. Quoting Wikipedia’s article on federal pardons in the United States: According to Associate Justice Joseph McKenna, writing the majority opinion in the U.S. Supreme Court case Burdick v. United States, a pardon is “an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it.”
A pardon issued and accepted (United States v. Wilson set the precedent that a pardon may be rejected by the intended recipient) does not erase an indictment or conviction. Pardoning a convict ends any prison sentence, fine or other punishment but does not erase felon status. For that you need an expungement.
Note: One does not need to be convicted for the president to issue a pardon. A pardon can end a trial before it begins.
Accepting a pardon does permanently satisfy one’s fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. In that way it’s kind of like pleading guilty and being sentenced to reading this piece of paper from the White House. You can’t be tried and punished for this same crime, which means you CAN be compelled to testify about it.
Because you automatically admit guilt when you take a pardon. Please whatever you want, taking a pardon makes you instantly guilty of the crime regardless.
You can also no longer plead the 5th, you MUST answer questions regarding your crimes and the crimes of others.
Oh like anyone gives a fuck about that now lol. Come on.
Wait, what? Does this matter? Can I normally change my plea? I’m fascinated please elaborate
It’s more like you can plead not guilty but still be convicted. So by accepting the pardon you are admitting you are in fact guilty. Kinda fucked in other situations really.
This is not actually true. It was once person’s excuse for not wanting to accept a pardon in the past.
Does any of that matter in the real world though? Compared to getting out of jail for free.
Depends on your job, any gov job is now an auto-disqualifying him for having a felony. International travel is also a lot harder now if he has a felony.
Lol right
I’m pretty sure there is no choice. If you’re pardoned then you’re released. You can try and stay in prison but they’ll drag you out just like they dragged you in.
He took an opportunity to avoid tortuous rape hell? Good for him. Nobody deserves to be in a US prison.
The people creating and supporting that system do deserve it though… it’s just the taxpayers don’t deserve having to pay for their parasitic asses any more than they already have.
That’s only because he needs it for his soyboy dietary restrictions.
Trump ain’t sending one thin dime to his moron supporters. Every penny of that is going to his family and current partners.
I have a guy at work who is praying for his trump bucks. Sad to watch