I bet he’ll go back for the reparation money
Yeah no joke, he took that pardon didn’t he? Fuck him.
To be fair I would take the fuck out of a pardon if I ever got one. Literal get out of jail free card.
Except you admit guilt by accepting the pardoned and commuting your crime. You can never ever change your plea or answer.
But otherwise, yeah, I agree.
To paraphrase Chris rock “You can look innocent in jail or guilty at the mall”
Why would this be true?
If you pled not guilty, got convicted, and got pardoned, that would imply admitting guilt?
Yes by judicial precedent. Quoting Wikipedia’s article on federal pardons in the United States: According to Associate Justice Joseph McKenna, writing the majority opinion in the U.S. Supreme Court case Burdick v. United States, a pardon is “an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it.”
A pardon issued and accepted (United States v. Wilson set the precedent that a pardon may be rejected by the intended recipient) does not erase an indictment or conviction. Pardoning a convict ends any prison sentence, fine or other punishment but does not erase felon status. For that you need an expungement.
Note: One does not need to be convicted for the president to issue a pardon. A pardon can end a trial before it begins.
Accepting a pardon does permanently satisfy one’s fifth amendment right against self-incrimination. In that way it’s kind of like pleading guilty and being sentenced to reading this piece of paper from the White House. You can’t be tried and punished for this same crime, which means you CAN be compelled to testify about it.
Because you automatically admit guilt when you take a pardon. Please whatever you want, taking a pardon makes you instantly guilty of the crime regardless.
You can also no longer plead the 5th, you MUST answer questions regarding your crimes and the crimes of others.
Oh like anyone gives a fuck about that now lol. Come on.
Wait, what? Does this matter? Can I normally change my plea? I’m fascinated please elaborate
It’s more like you can plead not guilty but still be convicted. So by accepting the pardon you are admitting you are in fact guilty. Kinda fucked in other situations really.
This is not actually true. It was once person’s excuse for not wanting to accept a pardon in the past.
Does any of that matter in the real world though? Compared to getting out of jail for free.
Depends on your job, any gov job is now an auto-disqualifying him for having a felony. International travel is also a lot harder now if he has a felony.
Lol right
I’m pretty sure there is no choice. If you’re pardoned then you’re released. You can try and stay in prison but they’ll drag you out just like they dragged you in.
He took an opportunity to avoid tortuous rape hell? Good for him. Nobody deserves to be in a US prison.
The people creating and supporting that system do deserve it though… it’s just the taxpayers don’t deserve having to pay for their parasitic asses any more than they already have.
That’s only because he needs it for his soyboy dietary restrictions.
Trump ain’t sending one thin dime to his moron supporters. Every penny of that is going to his family and current partners.
I have a guy at work who is praying for his trump bucks. Sad to watch
Much as I appreciate the faltering popular base of MAGA, anyone who thinks these shitheads have abandoned their most heinous opinions is living in a world of naiveté.
just because they’re abandoning dumpy, doesn’t mean they’re going to abandon being racist, homophobic, transphobic etc. if anything, they may well become MORE bigoted.
He might be a dumbass, but bro’s cosplay was on point
Really unfortunate timing for him. Trump just got a $1.776B slish fund to bribe supporters, influencers, and other powerful people with
Could have gotten a whole lot of money off that corruption
What slush money I love trimby
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It just kills me, “Hang on, we’re about to storm the capitol building? Let me not take a shit, put on my fur, horns and makeup real quick. This is gonna make history.”
What a waste of vaginal dryness.
The Qanon Shaman basically always dressed like that for any events.
Let me also go unarmed, that’ll be a successful insurrection against a government with tanks, F-35s, and satellite tracking!
That’s because it wasn’t a real insurrection. It was a Trump-planned insurrection LARP that turned into a mob after all these noobs got too into it. They were organized and supposed to go in and out, making quick death threats at the Congresspeople who opposed Trump along the way. Showing “the public doesn’t agree with this” even if they didn’t manage to murder some enemies, instead it turned into memes and the collateral deaths.
Well I mean…they won didn’t they?
He is a poop smear
I remember when the Always Sunny gang sold him his cosplay suit.
These peoples moral compass is amorphous, they ooze under the maga limbo bar.
Did he really or he is trying to stay relevant. These people are incapable of being genuine. Every word is bullshit.
MTG ended her political career over the same thing (plus support of Israel). It doesn’t mean they learned good values. She’s still racist. I heard he plans to run for some office and I imagine we’ll learn his current beliefs and they’ll resemble the MAGA days.
But they can become fed up with a lying asshole when he’s lied enough times. I was genuinely surprised when the crazy asshole MTG broke. Now I hope we’ll see a lot more. Again, they’ll still believe terrible things, but I like the idea of his (Trump’s) fragile ego suffering. The reality is he’ll probably take it out on the rest of us and it’ll suck no matter what.
MTG fell like so many before her. These people shove their whole head up Trump’s ass hoping to curry favor, ride the wave and get access. If they try to exert the influence they think they have gained, but get caught on the wrong side of a narrative shift, or are unable to reach an unrealistic standard of their cult, they get fucked.
Shaman need high wis not necessarily high int.
High wis indicates strong insight. This dude either rolled a Nat 1 every single day for years on his insight against Trump or he’s just a barbarian who believes he casts spells
better now than never
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Oh fuck off, if you really feel that way, why are you bothering commenting on shit? Like, go find other shit to do that isn’t “fake”. Fucking edgelords, man.
The US does not nor has it ever had a left wing party or even any notable left wing representation. Even if you made a point with that statement, it would be a moot point.
