• TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world
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    This is why I got a cheap Aeropress and milk frother. I pay enough for my latte, and the barista makes as much as I do, stop judging me for not tipping. I tip servers, not counter workers.

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      I don’t mind tipping for any hospitality service, but what I really hate about fast food and cafe tipping is that they often collect payment and push for a tip before the order was made incorrectly.

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        That’s a good point. I also hate that about food delivery services. I tip my drivers well, but I don’t like that I’m often giving a good tip and not getting good service in return. If I’d have known I was going to get bad service, I would have tipped based on distance only and it would be significantly less.

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          If you don’t get good service on GrubHub or wherever, you just complain to their helpline. They give you refunds.

          Honestly I have no issues with 95% of delivery orders. And usually the issue is the restaurant’s fault.

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      I’ve had my aeropress for years and have a love/hate relationship with it. I go on streaks that make incredible cups, followed by the worst cups of my life when I inevitably forget the ratios or change grinds. I really do like it and wish I could be a snob but I just settle for my Nespresso (when it isn’t broken and needing warranty replacement, again).

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          I could but then I wouldn’t be able to justify my irrational need for a new coffee machine.

          To be fair though, I’ve written it down and tried that. Maybe it’s my perception that changes or the little unaccounted nuances add up to big differences. Right now, I have a bold Cuban batch from Key West that tastes like burnt plastic no matter the amount of water or brew time.

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    I make coffee at home. Always have.

    But you know what is different? I don’t feel bad anymore about giving a low tip or even not tipping at all because the entire concept has been exploited and inflated to insane levels across almost every industry.

    I was prompted for a minimum 18% tip at the gas station when I bought a bottle of water and that was when I decided it was okay not to feel guilty about not tipping anymore.

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    We don’t really have this whole tipping thing here.

    I’ve had coffee in two places recently. One was in a hypermarket. I don’t remember what the coffee costs there, because it came free with the meal. If the restaurant staff feel they don’t get paid enough, I don’t care if they get inspiration from France and torch every car in the parking lot. You see, I go to the hypermarket by foot. It’s not that far away.

    The other place I had coffee recently was in the train. 2.80€. I certainly hope the restaurant car staff gets paid well. They’re technically railroad employees, after all. You don’t fuck with railroad workers.

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      I’ve never heard the term “hypermarket” before today, but according to Google that’s what these type of stores have been called since 1968 lol!

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    Oh I’m sorry, I thought America was all about turning the bull loose and protecting our beloved economy in its current form at all costs.

    Actions have consequences. An economy designed for infinite growth/metastasis on a very finite world has consequences. We’ve only just begun to feel the consequences of our not merely tolerance, but encouragement of insatiable, unaccountable greed.

    Buckle up. The price of lattes will be the least of our worries. Another 10 years and Chocolate and Coffee will probably be priced out for us capital batteries. Don’t worry though, they’ll make some cancer causing substitute that’s a third as satisfying for half the price. Be sure to CONSUME it.

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    The barista can ask their manager. If I have to come to you, that tip option doesn’t mean shit. Then I leave a 1 star review

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    They’ll keep it up as long as business is good. If people will pay 12$ for a latte and lines are out the door, and there are no regulations to stop price gouging and predatory behavior, why wouldn’t they?

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      Lattes aren’t essential. Charging $12 for one is neither predatory nor price gouging. It’s arguably exploitatative but I don’t feel it’s our job to tell people they’re not allowed to waste their own money.

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        Acting on “what the market will bear” instead of what at cost as well as labour is predatory in that it is opportunistic in the basic definition of what makes predatory behaviour predatory. It is also gouging as it is setting a price range that can be considered exclusionary. And then to also attack a customer who feels this and speaks it can be considered victim blaming as you’re enabling these behaviours by dismissing the feedback of the victim, which again is being exclusionary by enforcing their money to be taken but not allowing they can be part of the feedback or setting boundaries of what is happening to them.

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          When you call someone choosing to buy a $12 latte a victim it makes everything else you say impossible to take seriously.

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            you use ‘choice’ like $3 latte is an option. You’re bent on manipulating people so it’s hard to take you seriously.

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              You can get a latte at Dunkin donuts for $2.69 or McDonald’s for $1. Or, and this is going to blow your mind, you can live without lattes. We’re not talking about insulin ffs. How fucking entitled are you talking about a luxury item like it’s a necessity lmao

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      I have a hard time arguing for price controls for lattes. We aren’t talking water or housing or basic staples of food here.

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      Oh there are definitely laws to stop price gauging but that’s for small businesses and individuals who aren’t rich.

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      why wouldn’t they?

      It’s not even a matter of “why wouldn’t they,” do much as a matter of they must.

      Absent of regulations, any company that doesn’t abandon every conceivable human moral in pursuit of more profit will find itself hopelessly out-competed by the ones that do. If your every competitor is charging $12 for a latte and paying their employees starvation wages, and you charge a reasonable amount and pay your employees a decent wage, then every hour you’re in business your competitors will be making more money than you, and you will always fall behind, unless something comes along to close that gap.

      Libertarians might try to say that eventually the free market will close the gap, but adults know otherwise. The free market doesn’t give a shit about human decency, the environment, the value of mom and pop businesses, or any of that. The free market can only ever want to make more money, every year, at a faster rate of increase, every year. Forever.

      Government is the only thing that can reasonably account for how things should be. Regulations are the only reason we don’t have 80 hour work weeks and children in the mines.

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      I think coffee shops should 100% be allowed to price gouge. Its a product anyone can easily make at home for pennies.

      It’s like those multi million dollar art installations that’s literally just a yellow square with a red dot in the middle.

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        to be fair a setup that can make espresso drinks in the same quality league as coffee shops will cost in the range of 1000-3000€ but if you drink one cup per day then you can save that amount in a year by making coffee at home

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          Well, in that case, I don’t think anyone can make the case that espresso is a necessity, so again, gouge away.

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    I couldn’t tell you, I stopped going to coffee bars when the coffee became more than half my hourly wage, I’ll make my own coffee thank you very much.

    Can’t even go to a McDonald’s anymore without spending at least $16, I’ve stopped going to McDonald’s and started ordering Applebee’s because if I’m spending $20 on a meal anyway I might as well spent $4 more on there two for 24 deal and get like three times the amount of food

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      I bought 4 double cheese burgers last night for less than 5 pounds. I’m in the UK though.

      And have socialized healthcare (although poorly implemented).

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    That’s weird. My coffee is way cheaper at Dunkin Donuts and it’s counter service so I don’t fucking tip them.