According to Section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty:
The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.
When I see a Yogthos post with more comments than up votes. Anyone notice the lib got tired of hopping between his 4 other accounts to upvote all his own comments about half way through his replies?
I only see seven comments on the post
ignorance is blissYou’re not missing much, usual lib smugness about how we’re all literally Hitler because we all love Putin so much or something. The only funny part is how NOT MAD this guy is and how much he’s been very loudly announcing that he’s IGNORING ALL THE TANKIES for several hours now.
Wots their username I wanna see if we’ve banned them on our side
Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee, I think that’s one of the instances that defederated from Hexbear.
I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure that’s the one with the admin from the Baltic states who thought about defederating but then didn’t. Pretty sure overseasoned_meatbrain blocked a bunch of us because we’ve probably bullied the shit out of him at some point or another. Let me try an experiment.
@Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee you’re a salty dipshit who’s entire political education comes being completely ignorant, historically illiterate, and being spoonfed what to believe like a baby with a foul slurry of internet memes and youtube videos. If Plato was alive today he would look at you and say you are the living embodiment of his allegory of the cave. You are a toad trapped in a well that thinks the small circle of sky overhead is the entirety of the sky and the water you sit in is the deepest ocean in existence.
Hmm. I swear I’ve seen that username or one very, very similar to it on a different platform also doing very mad pro-Ukraine posting. Pretty sure it was on
, or some Discord server associated with one of the communities there. But can’t remember, or find anything with a brief search.
The little multi-colored star can get us Hexbear users to the original thread.
Don’t miss the best part of us getting some passive-aggressive fan mail from the lib:
EDIT #2: … Come on guys, where’s your teeth? Don’t more of you care about your cause? The hexbear communities are much better at this and they’re actually trolls
Oh damn, you’re right. If we had tag lines like Hexbear, that should totally be one of them.
Wow, so it isn’t libs trying to tell each other to ignore the “tankies” it’s just one guy, telling himself to do that with sockpuppets. That’s uhh…that’s really sad actually.
Reading back three hours of liberal content was not how I’d imagined spending my morning drinking my tea. Good morning to you guys too.
I can’t believe you nuked that guy, you’ve destroyed living art.
Yeah I probably shouldn’t have deleted everything lol. I wasn’t fully awake yet.
I missed everything 😭
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Because he’s on the right side of history! You damn tankies don’t get it! USA good, enemies of USA bad! Sure they might lie to their people, invade sovereign nations and make a mockery of human rights, but the bad guy countries do all that stuff and worse! The USA’s media told me so!
I think he just is trying to say inflammatory things for a ban so he can jerk himself off over how much smarter he is than those “intolerant tankies” and is getting really mad that our mods find him so pathetic they can’t even be bothered to ban him.
Holy shit, the lib has been doing this “I’m totally not mad and I don’t care about your opinions and am not going to respond to you evil tankies anymore!” thing for 2 fucking hours at this point.
- Interns have to get some OT to show their boss how good they are at licking boot. This pasty losers sitting in some shitty cubicle surrounded by a half dozen other losers all trying to one up each other.
Make that three.
I don’t mean to spam the comment section, but OH MY GOD HE’S STILL DOING IT GUYS!!! Yog, excellent post. The lib is out in force. Just one of them, but still.
I think most of them would last this long if they weren’t banned fairly quickly. But this guy keeps screaming to be banned over an over, so it’s funny to just let them stew in their own impotent temper tantrum.
I honestly cannot get my head around it. I have never argued with someone consecutively for more than like fifteen minutes, not even about Gaza. Meanwhile this guy has been going for hours just hitting refresh. If you google “terminally online,” this guy’s picture pops up.
I think the most remarkable thing about this one is their insistence that they’re “done arguing with the red fash tankie scum” and just not committing at all. It’s just bizarre. I responded to his comment, and I was certain he would see and read it eventually since they sees to be the kind of person who can’t help themselves. But literally within minutes they read it and responded. I couldn’t believe it.
I got tested for ADHD a while back, and the shrink administered a very basic impulse exam to me, where if the dot flashed below the line, you didn’t click, and if it flashed above, you clicked. This guy would click without a flash. They would just mash the button, I’m sure. It is so funny.
Yeah, I think it is just impulsive. They don’t seem to be trying to save face or reframe their argument, I’ve seen no moving of the goalposts with this one, literally just saying that they are better than the evil tankies for refusing to read anything they say.
They either have 0 self-awareness and honestly think it’s a slam-dunk argument to both call people an echo-chamber and refuse to read anything that contradicts their own viewpoint, or maybe,
They might be doing this on purpose. I think they’re fishing for a ban, that’s why they’re especially obnoxious, they’re trying to get a ban so they can go back to lemmy.me or whatever and talk about how the evil tankies banned them for “disagreeing with them.” I’m guessing they want to be congratulated by like minded bootlickers for their matyrdom.
That could very well be the case. Regardless, like comrade Catradora said, they just need to climb down from the cross. It’s clearly not working if that’s what they’re after.
No one:
Lib: Ban me!
I really love how they’ve internalized the whole idea that they’re being prosecuted even though they’re the dominant voice in the mainstream. Any time they see something that doesn’t fit into their carefully curated fantasy world, they have a meltdown.
literally just posts a declaration signed by the ukraine government that they obviously went back on in the future
libs: i am mad about this even though i didn’t read it
It’s ruzzian propaganda!
The Ukrainian SSR has to rejoin the USSR. It’s the law.
Aaw. It’s over.
Didn’t know y’all were pro Russia.
Is the Ukrainian constitution pro Russian?
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What do you think made this old woman so pro Russia she would go back to fight against the forces of the post-Maidan govt even after they electrocuted her through the kidneys?
There’s very little pro-Russia posters here believe it or not. It’s that we don’t go by you’re with us or against us American style politics.
People here make pro Russia posts in this instance because they’re protecting the people of Donbass and because we’re anti-NATO.
I don’t think you’ve met many pro-Russian people because they’re posting epic footages of Ukronazis being owned by superior Russian military, copious amounts of Z’s, and praise for Putin for bringing back traditional family values instead of degenerate western LGBT morals.
A Marxist understanding of capitalism leads to anti-imperialism. Anti-imperialism is understood by detractors as a simple rhetorical dressing over simplistic heuristics like “reflexive anti-americanism,” “history repeats itself,” and “the military-industrial complex needs contracts,” but all of these are reductive. Marxists understand that human political leadership in the imperial periphery, whether enlightened or tyrannical, will only be antagonized by empire for one single possible reason: it is getting in the way of market penetration. This is phrased succinctly by Kevin Dooley when criticizing Noam Chomsky’s support for a military alliance between the Kurds and the USA in Syria: “The difference between [Chomsky’s] position and a hard-line anti-imperialist position isn’t tactical. What he’s arguing is simply a violation of anti-imperialist principles based on a fundamentally different understanding of what can drive the empire to act in the world.” [16]
The accusation that anti-imperialists are unconcerned with human rights deserves a sharp rebuke. The USA was born of slavery and genocide, dropped atomic bombs as a matter of political brinkmanship, imported Nazi scientists and installed war criminals like Klaus Barbie and Nobusuke Kishi around the world to defend and advance anti-communist positions [17], and enthusiastically supports gruesome butcherers today. Simply put, Capital has destroyed innumerable countries and murdered hundreds of millions directly and indirectly. It is precisely a concern for the rights of humans that should make one immediately skeptical of any humanitarian posturing by Capital. Anti-imperialism not only means support for the important pro-social projects of states like Cuba, Vietnam, and China; it also means critical support for non-socialist states such as Iran and Russia. Critical support acknowledges that, though instituting various indefensible policies, enemies of empire are not being antagonized because of said policies. The only thing that can drive empire to act in the world is capital accumulation.
Critical support
Go ahead and ban me. I know where I am, I don’t care.
But it’s a bit of a stretch by any measure to say “It’s Ukraine’s fault for not being neutral” in the face of an invasion by Russia. Even for you guys.
Edit: Clearly I kicked the bee’s nest by asserting that (checks notes) a country of 45 million people doesn’t deserve to be destroyed by a clear aggressor.
Not responding to the blood thirsty tankies any more. Might as well ban me before you guys all soak your seats in sweat over how wrong I have to be
Edit #2: Kinda telling that I have roughly 5 downvotes on every single comment I made here. What a diverse community, 6 guys all jacking themselves off putting down a single “lib” while holed up nice and cozy in their safe space.
Come on guys, where’s your teeth? Don’t more of you care about your cause? The hexbear communities are much better at this and they’re actually trolls
Go ahead and ban me. I know where I am, I don’t care.
oh my god climb off the cross you fucking idiot
I’ve gotten banned here for less. It’s not a secret that these communities censor conflicting opinions.
If you think I’m being dramatic, maybe open your eyes to how your own communities operate.
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I depicted myself as the Chad, therefore I win
You guys have a real great community here. Dunk on me some more like you’re not all just keyboard warriors wishing the world was different
Dunk on me some more like you’re not all just keyboard warriors wishing the world was different
you have the self reflective ability of a black hole’s even horizon
You’re either getting off to responding to a clearly disengaging “lib” like you’re winning or you’re shakingad at the fact that I don’t care
Either way, tankies gonna tank 👍
You’re either getting off to responding to a clearly disengaging “lib” like you’re winning or you’re shakingad at the fact that I don’t care
dude you literally walked into a space looking to be banned and are in the process of begging for attention from the mods, while I am bullying you for doing so. It Doesn’t take a genius to figure out who the loser is.
Either way, tankies gonna tank 👍
FUCK YEAH TANKIES ON TOP, POST YOUR FAVORITE COMMUNIST TANK
Modernized Vietnamese T54, dependable and sexy
I know better than to engage the people flaming me here.
apparently not huh, really showing that you’re avoiding answering basic questions posed because you’re ignorant and don’t want to investigate the answers
I love how you just keep on perseverating here.
Tbh, I’m kinda bored.
Pretty sad how making a clown of yourself in public is the way you choose to spend your life.
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you soy jack, me chad, lol win
wow he found out the ‘>’ makes a quote we have a big boy here folks
I’ve gotten banned here for less. It’s not a secret that these communities censor conflicting opinions.
i don’t care, who the fuck are you
If you think I’m being dramatic, maybe open your eyes to how your own communities operate.
hey, dumbass, I mod like 5 communities here, all it takes is a fuckin click. I know how it operates and I implement it. I don’t feel sorry for someone who comes in here on purpose to say stupid shit that everyone but you knows is stupid. Get a grip, touch grass, and fuck off before i get your stupid profile banned for persistent libshittery.
^Case in point
Ban me if you’re mad.
says dumb shit
‘dude you said some dumb shit’
hehehe ur so mad lol got them
yeah no shit im mad when you took a fat fucking turd of a take, its extremely irritating to see a fucking 6 year old give his unwelcome opinions on a site of people with actual political education.
Read Marx, read lenin, read mao, then you can be allowed to have basic opinions. After that you can start really reading.
If you think I’m being dramatic, maybe open your eyes to how your own communities operate.
Through an iron fist that doesn’t tolerate liberalism? Yes, it’s not a secret that the mods censor western apologia and Z posting. We’re aware of how this community operates and that’s why like this place.
Thanks again for proving me right
Applauding yourself for reading the sidebar? There are like 7 rules and you expect any other response to breaking them? Hell, this community tends to go easy on people when they are legitimately curious and argue in good faith, but you came to troll.
Why waste your life on this nonsense and then play the martyr?
How?
Don’t you see! By not allowing people to shit on the floor in the middle of your restaurant, you’re proving that your restaurant can’t ever possibly be good! FREEZEPEACH!
Doggamit, I missed a salty, reality-denying lib by minutes.
Hurry, he’s still responding to people even though he said he was done talking. See my comment.
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Radio silence for me too. I don’t want to take the credit, but I think it might’ve been me who chased them off. I pointed out the obvious, that Ukraine had been shelling the Donbass for eight years prior to Russia’s “aggression,” and they had this truly galaxy-brained take. In case you didn’t see it…
“Oh, you’re saying that if a country bombs itself they should be invaded? Well what about American mass shootings?? I guess Canada should invade us over Sandy Hook, etc., right tankie?”
And upon my clowning on him for likening mass shootings by private citizens to sanctioned bombardment by a conventional military force, he conveniently disappeared. Maybe he realized how idiotic that was and ghosted to save face. But given his prior behavior, I’m not sure he’s even capable of that.
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Tankie says reality denying, in his club of 6 people on the internet, railing against the world as it happens around them, insulated by the warmth of his basement
As the libs laugh, because they don’t think about you at all
Well, first of all, you gotta pick between.
Not responding to the blood thirsty tankies any more.
And…you know…responding to the bloodthirsty tankies. You look pathetic otherwise.
Second of all,
As the libs laugh, because they don’t think about you at all
thank you for this classic case of “I chased you down the street to tell you how little I care about you”.
And finally, you do care about me, because I’m a double whammy, as on top of being a bloodthirsty tankie I am also a warmongering orc. You can go back to worshipping NATO and denying ukronazi war crimes in Donbass, Mahatma Gandhi.
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what was Operation Aerodynamic? what did Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt discuss on their leaked phone call? what did Merkel admit about the Minsk agreements?
you don’t know, all you do is parrot what bourgeois media tells you
Lovely. Do keep telling me what I know and don’t know.
pathetic non-response, couldn’t answer any of them
I know better than to engage the people flaming me here. All you people ever do is cherry pick points that support yours and ignore the rest while people die.
Good luck with that 👍
I know better than to engage the people flaming me here. All you people ever do is cherry pick points that support yours and ignore the rest while people die.
where were you in 2014 when ukraine started shelling villages in the donbass?
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This is the point where the go in full denial mode. Best they can do is fantasize about little green men.
yawn
burp
[fart noise]
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I suppose joining NATO is just another step on staying neutral…
Your neighbor has a gun pointed right at you loudly declaring his intent to use it. But it’s your fault for getting the police involved so he doesn’t shoot you, even though you agreed not to call the cops when he let you out of his basement.
You guys really want Russia to be the good guy in this, huh?
You really want russia to be the bad guy, dont you? Do you actually read what we write or are you committed to shilling for a Nazi state?
dude being neutral is not when you coup the real ukraine government, install a bunch of right wing losers, and then try to join the fucking GIANT ANTI-RUSSIA MILITARY ALLIANCE
What, are Hamas terrorists now? Houthis the bad guys worthy of bombing for distrupting trade routes? Does Iraq have WMDs? Are we going to pretend the Gulf of Tonkin ‘incident’ was legit? The Bay of Pigs was totally not done by us? Sending weapons to Osama Bin Laden was a very smart and good idea? This is the kind of shit the US says many times a decade, the whole US bloc lies to get into war and you fucking ducks waddle behind them and think yourself enlightened. Get a grip
I would say that you cannot possibly be this childish, but im afraid that everyone here knows the real answer. Just fuck off you politically inept loser.
^ did not read. Stay triggered, mod
It’s pretty clear you don’t read lol
Don’t -> won’t
You guys really don’t understand how you alienate yourselves every time you say
You libs are so full of western propaganda
And then immediately unironically say
Try our propaganda instead!
And then you proceed to flame whoever doesn’t agree with you? Then you expect us to read your “proof”?
What’s the point? I’m not allowed to have an opinion different than yours here without getting this this treatment either way? So why would I go out of my way to read your material?
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To not remain ignorant? Everything is propaganda, it’s propagating an idea, also you’ve been at this for hours apparently when you could’ve been reading instead???
dude are you illiterate it was barely 2 paragraphs worth
this “ban me ban me ban me u won’t” hissy fit is extremely pathetic, you need to get a fucking life.
I’m glad the mods haven’t banned this loser yet. Too pathetic to even be worth a ban, and it’s funny watching him twist himself in knots demanding a ban so he can jerk himself off over how persecuted he is.
dude are you illiterate
No, I chose not to read what is, unironically, a hissyfit
No, I chose not to read what is, unironically, a hissyfit
oh no did the mean words hurt your feelings? Its the internet kid, get a grip. Dude are you just going to sit here basically saying “no u, mods ban me im so smug” like you have for the last fucking half hour or are you going to GO OUTSIDE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.
but while we’re on the topic of ukraine, How’d that counter-offensive go btw?
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Joining a mutual defense agreement is not at all holding the gun. Also, NATO didn’t even consider Ukraine until well after Russia invaded.
You have to be pretty deep into the rabbit hole before you can say that Ukraine is the aggressor here.
Not that this conjecture matters, hit me with a soyjack
While their cities are being destroyed and their people are being slaughtered?
But wait, they clearly asked for total war. My bad
While their cities are being destroyed and their people are being slaughtered?
literally the donbass for 8 years while you said and did absolutely nothing
its not like you even care, you like politics because you like arguing with people so that you feel your pathetic existence is finally acknowledged. You need help.
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Probably shouldn’t have shelled their own country and people if they want to claim to be blameless and faced with “clear aggression.” Oops.
Killer logic you have there. I suppose that means any country is justified in invading another as long as the country is bombing itself.
How many shootings do we have a day in the US? That’s a comparable crime right? So I guess you’ll be the first in line to invade us too?
Can you seriously not help yourself? “Not responding to the blood thirsty tankies any more” my ass. I knew for a fact you would read my comment, but I didn’t expect you to respond in less than five minutes… Do you have a humiliation fetish?
You are making a fool of yourself. No, it isn’t comparable. Obviously there is a clear difference between the Azov nazis killing thousands of the citizens they are allegedly charged with protecting versus private citizens killing other private citizens. Jesus Christ, go touch grass.
The OP posts stupid shit like this all the time
and by stupid shit you mean factual information that’s at odds with the propaganda narrative you’ve internalized
Lol whatever you gotta tell yourself, sure
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As opposed to your comment which is full of information and doesn’t have any pithy insults?
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What’s insulting about being ignorant?
Now who’s acting ignorant lol
It’s literally the declaration signed by the ukraine government, the fact that you can’t process that is pretty hilarious. I guess lobotomies are a prerequisite for becoming a liberal.
If all I had was a criminal lack of context and pre-loaded insults to fire at anyone, I’m sure I’d be a tankie, too.
Nah, you’ve literally described yourself there. People you call tankies are the ones who try to spoon feed context to you like a little child while you spit it out and throw tantrums. You’d need at least a couple of brain cells to bang together to be a tankie.
The classic “no, u” that doesn’t even make sense, way to prove my point lol
Catch 22 and nullified by Russia’s own promise of not only non aggression but guarantee of defense
They’ve declared nato intentions before crimea annexation, its the whole reason lol
now, now let’s not let facts get in the way of sanctimonious liberal rage
That promise was conditioned on Ukraine remaining a neutral state.
of course your stupid username has a marvel movie reference
If you knew the reference you’d know it’s making fun of the MCU / Disney
