• Maeve@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Tbh, my first reaction was that it wasn’t fair; then I read more details as they were reported and had a moment of clarity. People get comfortable and mess up, it happens. This time, it cost someone their life.

    For those worried about Alec, he has plenty of money. His ego and wallet will take a hit, but he’s not going to prison. He may or not be in a mental prison, but he can afford quality therapy, so if he is and chooses to stay there, that’s on him.

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      11 months ago

      Literally no one is worried about him as a driving force bud, if you think thats the concern or topic of discussion you should probably sit it out

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        11 months ago

        Then why are people whinging about poor Alex refusing to take his rightful responsibility, like adults and poor people are expected to do?

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          11 months ago

          Because its not actually clear who is guilty of the death, the producer who hired an incompetent firearm safety coordinator or the incompetent firearm safety coordinator.

          Fucking obviously, you child.

          If being called a child over acting childish about a human being dying is too much for you, I again suggest you sit this conversation out and let the adults continue it.

          Or keep spamming my inbox with deleted comments.

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      11 months ago

      I went on exactly the same path as you and I only read about it when I came across the articles casually browsing, I didn’t actively seek them out.

      There are people that knew more and are still defending him, which is wild.

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        11 months ago

        I hear you. He can still be a decent person who made a serious mistake due to gross negligence. I’m not saying he is or isn’t decent; I like s lot of past things he said, and I hope this was a wake up call for all of us: If we’re coasting too long on good reputation/intention/feelings, we’re going to get hard reminders to actually continue working to be better than we were, yesterday.

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          11 months ago

          I’m basing what I say on the Wikipedia article and the two years old Legal Eagle video, but it seems it wasn’t his negligence, but rather the armorer’s and the assistant producer’s:

          According to a search warrant, the guns were briefly checked by armorer Gutierrez-Reed, before assistant director Halls took the Pietta revolver from the prop cart and handed it to Baldwin.[39][40] In a subsequent affidavit, Halls said the safety protocol regarding this firearm was such that Halls would open the loading gate of the revolver and rotate the cylinder to expose the chambers so he could inspect them himself. According to the affidavit, Halls said he did not check all cylinder chambers, but he recalled seeing three rounds in the cylinder at the time. (After the shooting, Halls said in the affidavit, Gutierrez-Reed retrieved the weapon and opened it, and Halls said that he saw four rounds which were plainly blanks, and one which could have been the remaining shell of a discharged live round.)[41] In the warrant, it is further stated that Halls announced the term “cold gun”, meaning that it was empty.[39] Halls’s lawyer, Lisa Torraco, later sought to assert that he did not take the gun off the cart and hand it to Baldwin as reported, but when pressed by a reporter to be clear, she refused to repeat that assertion

          Btw, holy fucking shit I hate lawyers

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            11 months ago

            He was the boss of all bosses. That’s the point. The buck stopped with him. Either he’s boss material or he’s not. Having money alone doesn’t give you the skill. The skill would be accepting responsibility, stop pointing fingers, accepting legal and financial consequences.