It was already said about Troy Mclure.
I’m still annoyed that a 3rd rate Indian comedian said “Apu is making us all look bad”
Ahh yes Apu who is literally the hardest working person (besides Smithers) Apu a man who had 5 women dating him at one time. A man who got the hottest girl ever (The Squishish girl)… They decided that was offensive and against their race.
All I’ve got is “OI MISTER PRIME MINISTER” and “900 DOLLARYDOOS???”
I guess I’m entitled because 900 dollarydoos is fucking hilarious and I love being insulted.
I have some long lost Scottish heritage (ask the English and the Catholic Church why I can’t look up my history) and I Absolutely love everything about Groundskeeper Willie even his creepy phase of filming couples in their cars… "EVERY SCOTTISH PERSON DOS EET’
Ahh yes Apu who is literally the hardest working person (besides Smithers)
It’s reinforcing a stereotype. Apu was an interesting character when they expanded him, but he dealt with a lot of stereotypes and had a white guy voicing a fairly stereotypical guy.
Hank Azaria (or whoever it is voicing him) is cool with it, maybe check out his perspective
Hank Azaria voices many characters and is a very talented guy. I don’t blame him for being uncomfortable voicing Apu
Apu had so many silly and offensive things towards Indians… But Apu is (As I said in my original comment) a great and wonderful character and is one of the better off characters in the show.
The only time Apu is a bad guy is when he’s selling expired meat or when he’s cheating on his wife.
The rest of the time he’s busting his arse and being so damned hard working.
Groundskeeper Willie is a drunk, hate filled, Scottish borderline serial killer… All okay it’s because he’s Scottish.
I don’t care either way, I like Apu and I like Willie but I don’t like that a 3rd rate comedian attacked Apu just to get famous and No one cares about the harmful stereotypes of Ellie… I don’t even care…
Actually I’m tired of this, I don’t care.
I’m sometimes a bit concerned that I do buy into the “white actors voice them better” trope.
I think last major instance I recall is Widowmaker from Overwatch. The fake French accent is generally much easier to hear their lines through, and they can build their vocal focus on the “sexy spy” theme.
It could be just that English actors are better at understanding cultural expectations to build on for their audience. I’ve had a hard time building investment in some characters with certain heavy native accents, which is tricky to think about.
Don’t worry, you don’t need to watch the whole thing. He repeats his point multiple times :
Basically, by catering to generic ideas instead of authentic ones, you are being robbed of cultural exposure and reinforcing biases and simple perspectives you have instead of growing.
Yeah, when someone does a stereotypical accent you associate with something, it conforms more to your ideas of how your language sounds when made by a foreigner. It doesn’t make you understand what the accent actually sounds like, and WHY it sounds that way. It’s nice for you, because it panders to you, instead of treating you like an adult.
Also, it’s disingenuous to bring french accents into this, since the main problem is that the stereotypes being presented of ethnic minorities are often used to ridicule them, and deny them prosperity. That’s the difference, the french guy is ,moving from one well of place to the next and people aren’t going to deny him promotions or whatever. However, to Indian people, or children of Indians, patterns of bullying and marginalisation still exist and are exasperated by the stereotypes.
You are ignoring the process. If i were to just ape sterotypes i would not call that establishing empathy. The reflection and introspection upon taking a persona, estimating what living conditions were like, walking a mile in their shoes, etc. is what enables the growth.
These are things you seem to lack the ability to percieve in others.
It was already said about Troy Mclure. I’m still annoyed that a 3rd rate Indian comedian said “Apu is making us all look bad” Ahh yes Apu who is literally the hardest working person (besides Smithers) Apu a man who had 5 women dating him at one time. A man who got the hottest girl ever (The Squishish girl)… They decided that was offensive and against their race.
All I’ve got is “OI MISTER PRIME MINISTER” and “900 DOLLARYDOOS???”
I guess I’m entitled because 900 dollarydoos is fucking hilarious and I love being insulted.
I have some long lost Scottish heritage (ask the English and the Catholic Church why I can’t look up my history) and I Absolutely love everything about Groundskeeper Willie even his creepy phase of filming couples in their cars… "EVERY SCOTTISH PERSON DOS EET’
Don’t forget that Apu was an excellent hard-working, small business owning, immigrant father.
Maybe that WAS the problem.
That’s a bloody outrage it is! Hey Tony!!
It’s reinforcing a stereotype. Apu was an interesting character when they expanded him, but he dealt with a lot of stereotypes and had a white guy voicing a fairly stereotypical guy.
Hank Azaria (or whoever it is voicing him) is cool with it, maybe check out his perspective
Hank Azaria voices many characters and is a very talented guy. I don’t blame him for being uncomfortable voicing Apu
Apu had so many silly and offensive things towards Indians… But Apu is (As I said in my original comment) a great and wonderful character and is one of the better off characters in the show.
The only time Apu is a bad guy is when he’s selling expired meat or when he’s cheating on his wife.
The rest of the time he’s busting his arse and being so damned hard working.
Groundskeeper Willie is a drunk, hate filled, Scottish borderline serial killer… All okay it’s because he’s Scottish.
I don’t care either way, I like Apu and I like Willie but I don’t like that a 3rd rate comedian attacked Apu just to get famous and No one cares about the harmful stereotypes of Ellie… I don’t even care… Actually I’m tired of this, I don’t care.
I’m sometimes a bit concerned that I do buy into the “white actors voice them better” trope.
I think last major instance I recall is Widowmaker from Overwatch. The fake French accent is generally much easier to hear their lines through, and they can build their vocal focus on the “sexy spy” theme.
It could be just that English actors are better at understanding cultural expectations to build on for their audience. I’ve had a hard time building investment in some characters with certain heavy native accents, which is tricky to think about.
this whole thing sounds like desert camel music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR511iAedYU
Don’t worry, you don’t need to watch the whole thing. He repeats his point multiple times :
Basically, by catering to generic ideas instead of authentic ones, you are being robbed of cultural exposure and reinforcing biases and simple perspectives you have instead of growing.
Yeah, when someone does a stereotypical accent you associate with something, it conforms more to your ideas of how your language sounds when made by a foreigner. It doesn’t make you understand what the accent actually sounds like, and WHY it sounds that way. It’s nice for you, because it panders to you, instead of treating you like an adult.
Also, it’s disingenuous to bring french accents into this, since the main problem is that the stereotypes being presented of ethnic minorities are often used to ridicule them, and deny them prosperity. That’s the difference, the french guy is ,moving from one well of place to the next and people aren’t going to deny him promotions or whatever. However, to Indian people, or children of Indians, patterns of bullying and marginalisation still exist and are exasperated by the stereotypes.
I think preventing people from playong around with accemts and voices from other cultures is fascist, kills play, and blocks some pathways to empathy.
i guess we could do genetic testing before casting paid roles so all intended accemts will be allowed.
explain how, postmate Dumbass.
By pretending to be someone else you must apply some model of the other in you.
Did that make it thru your thick, dense, calcified brain basket?
Ok, but when you do that as a stereotype you aren’t empathizing with them, you are reinforcing the stereotype of them in your head.
You are ignoring the process. If i were to just ape sterotypes i would not call that establishing empathy. The reflection and introspection upon taking a persona, estimating what living conditions were like, walking a mile in their shoes, etc. is what enables the growth.
These are things you seem to lack the ability to percieve in others.
Which explains this chat.
Edits: typos
I mean… Your chosen name is “postmate dumbass” why did you take offence?
I’m pretty sure ‘dollarydoos’ is honourary Aussie now. It was in Bluey.
Aside from public remove reason, that character was become boring. I would expected them to remove him anyway
Making fun of nationalities is fine as long as it is funny enough.