• MisterFrog@aussie.zone
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    9 days ago

    Yes Angus, I agree we should stop corporate handouts.

    Where you’re being very disingenuous is your plan for “small” government.

    1. There’s no such thing, you only will have an outsourced government
    2. A small government only results in privatisation, increasing the cost to the community in having to pay for profits

    I mean, look me in the eye and say transurban hasn’t caused massive loss for motorists and businesses, rather than paying tolls to the state.

    Tell me that paying private energy retailers profits is better than what we had with the Victorian SEC.

    Tell me that shopping around for private healthcare, private disability care, is good for the people?

    Utter bullshit, but yes I agree, go let private businesses be private. We shouldn’t be giving them any public money.

    Not that you believe that, given that was no change to corporate handouts under LNP governments either.

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      that’s what i thought as well

      all the major blow outs snowy, ndis, etc all have private companies at the heart of them

      it sounds like we need to try something different because this ain’t working

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        Even if we don’t get rid of capitalism (my preference), I honestly think if we at least reverted to: infrasture should be publically owned, constructed (with direct employment, not private contracts), and maintained, we’d save a bunch of money, have better quality infrastructure, and provide stable employment to a bunch more people.

        Though, there is serious restructuring to do to government departments. My suggestion? Make department leadership elected by the workers (they’d still be beholden to the government, but it means that you’d have fewer “manager” types at the reigns who don’t actually have a clue).

        And, as forementioned, the route problem here is capitalism.

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    Whether or not the Liberal Party will recover is moot. The Capitalist class will just reform under a new banner, out of the ashes, just as they did before.

    It’s not hard to be cynical when you realise every such party throughout the history of Australia was predominantly built upon the notion of opposing the party of labour.

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          I’d say it’s a mix, most Australians would have some sort of equity in stock or investment property or something like this

          I just realised you’re referring to communism I think, I’m not sure if you’re joking or a uni student

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            I’m a 40-something white collar worker earning a six figure income, that predominantly is as a result of my labour.

            Just because my wife and I own shares that pay dividends, as well as having a few other sources of “passive” income mean that we aren’t part of the labour force.

            The Capitalist class refers to individuals with an 8+ figure net worth who’s primary source of income is passive - ie. their wealth and political influence is on a scale that dwarves what the other >99% of the nation.