For real though, this is some serious psychopath logic. Consent isn’t just merely asking the question of whether you can do what you want to do without even waiting for a clear-cut response. If I ask someone if I can break their phone, they laugh because they think I’m joking, and then I go and actually do it — guess what? There was never any consent.
There also literally could not be consent due to the nature of their relationship and the massive power imbalance. But I’m not going to waste my time trying to explain that to this person.
So essentially you’re saying she was lying, or at least disingenuous. And that she “consented” but later changed her mind. I can’t say I’m surprised you’re of the crowd that gives the benefit of the doubt to sexual predators over victims, but it definitely doesn’t make it any less jarring to see it so blatantly.
Sounds like he asked for consent to me
There is the question of if the power dynamic made it inappropriate obviously
Definitely not sexual assault in my eyes, watching someone jack off isn’t the end of the world, there is a reason there was no charges or conviction
Alright Louis, it’s time to log off.
For real though, this is some serious psychopath logic. Consent isn’t just merely asking the question of whether you can do what you want to do without even waiting for a clear-cut response. If I ask someone if I can break their phone, they laugh because they think I’m joking, and then I go and actually do it — guess what? There was never any consent.
There also literally could not be consent due to the nature of their relationship and the massive power imbalance. But I’m not going to waste my time trying to explain that to this person.
It sounds to me like he waited for consent and this is just her words
I don’t really want to live in a world where people are punished because people change their mind later after consenting to something
So essentially you’re saying she was lying, or at least disingenuous. And that she “consented” but later changed her mind. I can’t say I’m surprised you’re of the crowd that gives the benefit of the doubt to sexual predators over victims, but it definitely doesn’t make it any less jarring to see it so blatantly.
He never sexually assaulted anyone and was punished plenty
Not calling anyone a liar but I can’t come to the same conclusion as you reading what was said
Stop trying to paint me as someone other than reasonable, I’m just not an over zealous social justice warrior
Cool.
I hope you’re never in a position where the person with an inordinate amount of power over your career puts you into a situation like that.
Hint: There cannot be consent here due to the power imbalance.
Even if that wasn’t true, what you just described isn’t consent. I fear for every young woman that comes in contact with you.
Of course they can, get real
Other female comedians have come forward and said it happened to them and it was consensual and they didn’t care
Good for them
No, they can’t. It’s fucking alarming that so many people can’t seem to grasp this.
There is a reason why teachers are not allowed to have sex with their 18 year old students.
Two arguably consenting adults cannot be compared to a teacher / student relationship
What planet do you live on?
An 18 year old can consent though? Why wouldn’t they be able to have sex with their teacher?
Go ahead, you’re so close…
That case is fine, but definitely wasn’t what was implied