Swift backlash from 2SLGBTQ+ community over series author J.K. Rowling

Natalie Stechyson · CBC News · Posted: Jul 28, 2026 1:10 PM EDT

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    Are you sure you’re separating the art from the artist correctly if you believe buying these doughnuts is appreciating the art and not enriching the artist?

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      Yes. You can absolutely hate a person and still have an appreciation for art that person has created. The angst about JK Rowling in particular is an easy public performance. It requires no real effort to say “Yes, I hate her too, she bad!”

      On the other hand it takes an awful lot of effort to research everyone involved with all of the media you consume to make sure you’re not enriching anyone who holds similar views. So you almost certainly don’t put in effort to make sure you don’t enrich anyone with shitty views, because it’s not something you genuinely care deeply enough about for it to be worth changing your life and habits and putting in so much work. You just want to be able to say “See, I’m one of the good ones and fuck the bad ones.”

      That’s the difference between separating an artist from their art and performative virtue signaling. I have no problem supporting art that I genuinely love that isn’t made by flawless, divine beings. If I find out the people are shit I’m willing to accept that and not like the person, but that doesn’t change my enjoyment of the art itself. The art is not the person.

      If I take my car to a mechanic who does a wonderful job fixing it up and the car now runs like a dream come true, and then I find out he stabbed someone once, I’m not going to suddenly start hating what a good job he did professionally. That was still a good job. Me appreciating that isn’t condoning or supporting stabbing folk. I won’t feel the need to loudly proclaim that he’s awful and I hate that I went to him and I’d take it all back to show you and other people what a goody good person I am. Because I don’t care what you think. You’re irrelevant. I’m absolutely fine with idiots thinking I’m a dick. I’m an honest one. Most of you are full of shit and putting on social theater. I find that far more disgusting than being an honest dick.

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        That’s a lot of words to avoid explaining how buying these doughnuts is appreciating the art and not enriching the artist, and how separating the artist from the art applies here.

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            Unfortunately your problem is that I understood your words too well. How else would I be able to tell that you didn’t respond to what I said at all? If I had a poor understanding of words, I’d see all your big words and how many of them there were and think “Wow, this guy must be correct”.

            So, since you were the one to fail to respond to what was asked in the first place, the question is which words I used were so incomprehensible that you ended up spending 20 minutes typing up something that didn’t apply? Was it “correctly”? Maybe “doughnuts” since it’s spelled in a regional way?

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              The bulk of the words were pointing out that a part of being able to separate an artist from their art is not caring if enjoying their art led to a financial benefit for the person you dislike. I enjoy some music made by serial adulterers. I’ve enjoyed movies that include actors who are generally known to be complete pieces of shit to most humans they interact with. I’m not researching everything about the lives and views of everyone involved with every piece of media I enjoy. And it’s very possible for awful people to make wonderful things. I’m not going to stop enjoying those things because of that, even if I strongly dislike the artist as a person.

              tl;dr: I don’t fucking care if she gets a penny because I buy a dozen donuts. She has a mountain of money. You’re not financially harming a billionaire by not eating a donut.

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                The question was about how you see buying these doughnuts as appreciating the art more than supporting the artist, not how much you care about giving the artist a penny.

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                  If you enjoy the art, which in this case would be Harry Potter, then how buying Harry Potter collaboration donuts is appreciating that art should be self evident. Just like how folk who enjoy Transformers might buy Transformers toys or cookies.

                  That’s the entire point of marketing collaborations. Getting folk who like one thing to buy something else that thing is doing a collaboration with. When it’s a collaboration with a popular form of artistic media it’s being done to get folk who appreciate said media to but said collaboration product. In this case donuts.

                  It’s not Tim Hortons doing a JK Rowling or Emma Watson collaboration, or that is what they would be advertising and the campaign and product would reflect that. The entire thing is talking about the artistic media, not any individual real human person.

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                    You’re arguing about brand recognition, not separating the art from the artist. This is a consumerism campaign to tie a commercial product to another business brand, not an artistic endeavour to encourage or appreciate the books directly as if it’s a public reading or a themed event. Nobody had an issue with the fan-generated gathering at King’s Crossing Station a few years ago for the anniversary of the books.

                    So how does buying these doughnuts show an appreciation for the art more than it enriches the artist? This is what needs to be explained since you believe the concept of separating the art from the artist apparently is the concept at play here.

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        So many words, and nothing of value.

        JK Rowling has, in the course of her transphobia arc, engaged in Holocaust revisionism, sexual harassment, and overt racism.

        You can’t separate shit from fuck, when the money you’re throwing around is directly being used to harm others.

        Read another fucking book, you sheltered little loser

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          Lazy copy/paste:

          I find it ironic that the people supposedly doing good by hating her are the ones in here spitting bile at others. Not even others who say a single good word about the woman. I’d say you’re acting like awful people, but I don’t think you’re acting. That’s likely why you need to virtue signal so hard.

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            I’m not here to “virtue signal”, I’m here to shout your dumbass off this fucking platform.

            I am trans. This affects me very directly. I do not care for your faux civility. You are not welcome here. Log the fuck off, and read another damn book

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              You’ve been the main one in the thread spewing vitriol and hate at others. I’m going to go ahead and block you now. I hope you find more peace and happiness in your life.

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          It’s so heartbreakingly sad to see how many stupid children see someone taking the time to actually respond with more than one or two badly written sentences and deciding that must be AI.