But pretty sure Timmy Chalamei sees the future, and sacrifices his humanity and the humanity of his children for the good of the human race.
He didn’t just think he’d be a good ruler, he was snorting a bunch of actual magic fairy dust and legitimately able to see the future and knew what it would take to save humanity: his own.
It’s a typical space Jesus story, so of course he’d just be another deluded space asshole, if he wasn’t really is Space Jesus in the story.
He didn’t just think he’d be a good ruler, he also knew his involvement would sent in motion a catastrophic jihad that would drown the universe in blood.
He knew he was the opposite of Jesus and that his family were just like the Harkonens but more subtle
Yes, but also… while the jihad would lead to billions of deaths, the state of the galaxy at that time was so stagnant that him not acting would lead to far worse results. So Catch-22 - he was doing the best thing for the very long run, and just didn’t have the ability/strength/balls to go far enough himself.
I know he suddenly regretted what he was starting but did he not have the balls or is drowning the universe in blood just such a momentous task that one guy and a planet of extremists can’t do it all in a single generation of time?
Okay fuck it, gonna reread it now. Maybe this will make me want to watch the show
I seem to remember it’s a bit of both. Paul already has the problem of suddenly being able to see all the paths. To stay sane just from that point is commendable. But that’s a lot to carry. Still not as much as his sister, who never had a chance to form her own identity before being hit with knowing everything from past mothers, with everyone in her head.
Haven’t read the last few books yet, but I believe that further into the future there’s a greater threat coming which humanity can only survive by being used to adapting and spreading through the universe.
Edit: User above said something along the lines of never having understood why stagnant was not actually better than thousands of years of oppression. A very good observation, and not really clearly explained enough in the books.
The original books never go further into it, but essentially yes. There’s a single bit of dialogue when Paul’s son talks about hunter seeker robots exterminating mankind. But in the prequel books, during the Butlerian jihad, just before it’s defeat the enemy ai makes copies of itself and launched them to random distant stars. And mind you, this was before faster then light travel (the discovery of which is what actually helped the humans win). But presumably Omnius returns for a reckoning.
Not a huge Dune fan…
But pretty sure Timmy Chalamei sees the future, and sacrifices his humanity and the humanity of his children for the good of the human race.
He didn’t just think he’d be a good ruler, he was snorting a bunch of actual magic fairy dust and legitimately able to see the future and knew what it would take to save humanity: his own.
It’s a typical space Jesus story, so of course he’d just be another deluded space asshole, if he wasn’t really is Space Jesus in the story.
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He didn’t just think he’d be a good ruler, he also knew his involvement would sent in motion a catastrophic jihad that would drown the universe in blood.
He knew he was the opposite of Jesus and that his family were just like the Harkonens but more subtle
Yes, but also… while the jihad would lead to billions of deaths, the state of the galaxy at that time was so stagnant that him not acting would lead to far worse results. So Catch-22 - he was doing the best thing for the very long run, and just didn’t have the ability/strength/balls to go far enough himself.
I know he suddenly regretted what he was starting but did he not have the balls or is drowning the universe in blood just such a momentous task that one guy and a planet of extremists can’t do it all in a single generation of time?
Okay fuck it, gonna reread it now. Maybe this will make me want to watch the show
I seem to remember it’s a bit of both. Paul already has the problem of suddenly being able to see all the paths. To stay sane just from that point is commendable. But that’s a lot to carry. Still not as much as his sister, who never had a chance to form her own identity before being hit with knowing everything from past mothers, with everyone in her head.
His sister didn’t see the future.
Ah, that’s right. So only really maddening, and not totally.
And the past was not only from mothers, but from fathers too.
That’s pretty important.
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Haven’t read the last few books yet, but I believe that further into the future there’s a greater threat coming which humanity can only survive by being used to adapting and spreading through the universe.
Edit: User above said something along the lines of never having understood why stagnant was not actually better than thousands of years of oppression. A very good observation, and not really clearly explained enough in the books.
The original books never go further into it, but essentially yes. There’s a single bit of dialogue when Paul’s son talks about hunter seeker robots exterminating mankind. But in the prequel books, during the Butlerian jihad, just before it’s defeat the enemy ai makes copies of itself and launched them to random distant stars. And mind you, this was before faster then light travel (the discovery of which is what actually helped the humans win). But presumably Omnius returns for a reckoning.
Maybe a spoiler since I don’t know the movie touches on it, but besides Paul’s father they are all Harkonnens or part Harkonnen.
Shit, really sorry my b
The book is out for decades, I think its ok to say
Got me! I need sleep