I’ll have to take your word for it. The only side of China I get to see from way over here is when they hold innocent countrymen hostage to put pressure on a third party.
Not being facetious; I recognize that what I get to see is heavily biased.
In regards to the 2 Michael’s who were rightfully arrested for being intelligence operatives with Spavor then successfully suing the Canadian government and Korvig for unknowingly making him an accomplice and winning $6 million. Are not who I would call innocents held hostage.
uh huh so everything surrounding it was just a happy coincidence for China. Even allowing for the sake of discussion (meaning I don’t know if it’s actually true) that China arrested them for criminal acts that they took in China, THAT DOESN’T JUSTIFY WHAT CHINA DID.
Look, I can acknowledge that my grasp of what it is like to live in China is non-existent, but you’re not going to sway anyone spouting party bullshit. China is an active threat to my country’s autonomy and uses threats of violence against our loved ones for political manipulation. Shit like that has to stop if China is to become a benign member of the international community.
It’s not party bullshit it’s reality Spavor sued Korvig and the Canadian government and won $6million for them turning him into an intelligence asset without his knowledge leading to his arrest. Espionage is a capitol offence in China it was Canada holding Meng Wanzhou hostage at the behest of the Americans that spared them. Also I don’t think Canadians (or any other US satellite like the Europeans) get to decide who is “a benign member of the international community” after you helped the Americans rampage across the world committing non stop atrocities for the last 81 years.
China is an active threat to my country’s autonomy and uses threats of violence against our loved ones for political manipulation.
What country couldn’t say the same about the US? Nobody is saying china is a paradise, it’s just objectively not quite as fucked up as the US at the moment.
They’re literally capturing innocent foreign citizens. Ask the Mexican government about all the grievances they filed asking for information on innocent Mexican citizens who died in ICE custody.
I’ll have to take your word for it. The only side of China I get to see from way over here is when they hold innocent countrymen hostage to put pressure on a third party.
Not being facetious; I recognize that what I get to see is heavily biased.
In regards to the 2 Michael’s who were rightfully arrested for being intelligence operatives with Spavor then successfully suing the Canadian government and Korvig for unknowingly making him an accomplice and winning $6 million. Are not who I would call innocents held hostage.
uh huh so everything surrounding it was just a happy coincidence for China. Even allowing for the sake of discussion (meaning I don’t know if it’s actually true) that China arrested them for criminal acts that they took in China, THAT DOESN’T JUSTIFY WHAT CHINA DID.
Look, I can acknowledge that my grasp of what it is like to live in China is non-existent, but you’re not going to sway anyone spouting party bullshit. China is an active threat to my country’s autonomy and uses threats of violence against our loved ones for political manipulation. Shit like that has to stop if China is to become a benign member of the international community.
It’s not party bullshit it’s reality Spavor sued Korvig and the Canadian government and won $6million for them turning him into an intelligence asset without his knowledge leading to his arrest. Espionage is a capitol offence in China it was Canada holding Meng Wanzhou hostage at the behest of the Americans that spared them. Also I don’t think Canadians (or any other US satellite like the Europeans) get to decide who is “a benign member of the international community” after you helped the Americans rampage across the world committing non stop atrocities for the last 81 years.
What country couldn’t say the same about the US? Nobody is saying china is a paradise, it’s just objectively not quite as fucked up as the US at the moment.
Did you miss the part a few comments up about Russia, China and the US all being shit cunts?
Yes, i dont see any of that in this thread
That shit happens in the US daily with ICE so yeah it’s worse over here.
What does that have to do with China/Canada relations? How is ICE putting pressure on foreign governments? This is fucking weird thing to say.
They’re literally capturing innocent foreign citizens. Ask the Mexican government about all the grievances they filed asking for information on innocent Mexican citizens who died in ICE custody.