They’ll point to Israel, Israel, Israel. Okay, sure, agreed.
But when you point out that China, North Korea, and Russia are all engaging in a blatant genocide against Ukraine – they suddenly cannot grasp the concept!
My political sanity check is to ask what one’s opinion is on Ukraine and Palestine.
See Ukrainians as victims of genocide but not Palestine? Zionist piece of shit. Palestinians are victims but Russia is justified? Tankie piece of shit. Don’t approve of either genocide? Might be a sane human being that actually dislikes genocide itself.
See, I understand the sentiment, but then I also know many people who use terms like “tankie” also wouldn’t be super chill about anti-imperialism in any way related to abolishing the EU, US, Canada, Australia, etc. Not that is necessarily the case, but hardly worth focusing on “hypocrisy” without consistency.
North Korea is supporting the Russian war effort by providing troops. North Koreans have been fighting alongside Russian soldiers for a long while now. It’s actually worse, because North Korean soldiers are on the front lines they’re getting experience fighting a modern war. Which means that if North Korea ever gets into a shooting war with South Korea or the United States they’ll have experienced troops. Right now the best thing to do would be support Ukrainian forces because they’re also gaining experience fighting a modern war and could teach those skills to American and NATO troops.
Ah oh no you pointed to Israel so that argument just doesn’t count.
I mean if that counted you could say that almost all the western nations are “blatantly engaging in genocide” for supporting Israel or preventing sanctions. That basically normalized genocide. It becomes an everyday thing. Genocide, schmemocide.
Obviously the removal of Children by Russia is considered a war crime and can amount to ethnic cleansing.
Well yeah, Russia is also gaining experience in drone warfare. It’s just one reason why I’m against continuing this war. We’re literally building up Russia as our enemy. The military elites in Russia all support this war, and the war economy is going to build up their weapons capabilities long term.
Wars can be won or lost. Surrender is always an option. Ukraine is down to ~45% of it’s prewar population, and it’s not certain how many refugees will want to return.
No I’m not “noble” I’m just an adult. Call me daddy. Don’t be a baby and crash out when you loose a little game of war. And eat some vegetables with your peace agreement! Ukraine is just fucked, but better them than us. I’m not spending fucking 5% of GDP on fucking Nato 3.0!
I’d celebrate that we get to own what is left of Ukraine but it’s obviously going to be owned by the banks. And then Ukraine is going to create their own “stab in the back” myth, really looking forward to that as well haha.
PS: I’m obviously bullshitting but that is more or less the shitty reality of the situation.
Surrender equals to mass tortures, oppression, pillage and rape, thus less or more similar to continuation of war. Except you won’t be reading about it in the news. Adult my ass.
I’m Ukrainian, my father’s friends were killed this week by a random drone strike in their home. Get fucked with your vegetables.
I’m very sorry to hear about your sorrows. It doesn’t change my argument though.
Surrender equals to mass tortures, oppression, pillage and rape
This is bit much on the hyperbole and borders on incitement to racial hate. Trying to paint the Russians as some kind of orc people fell out of use like 2 years ago.
In any case a diplomatic solution would obviously require some kind of security guarantee (that includes security for Russia). This retired Commodore suggest the OSCE as a possible peacekeeping force.
How do you see this war ending? Just keep painting Russia as the supreme evil and push for endless confrontation, escalation, war? Some kind of wunderwaffe?
The new reality is that even NATO cannot cannot guarantee security, that article mentions this - the US has been practically been pushed back from the gulf by Iran. And Russia has better weapons than Iran. And neither US or Europe can afford to produce more weapons, and doesn’t even have the capacity.
And winter is going to be a problem with the self imposed energy crisis. The looming AI bubble is going to pop sooner or later. European countries are going to go into recessions, reactionary parties are going to get into power.
This fucking insanity and dream of total war has to stop. Why does Russia have to be my enemy? I don’t have to like them to get along.
NK provides troops and artillery shells. China keeps their market open to russi allowing drone and drone parts purchases - which are instantly weponized into loitering ammunition aka kamikaze drones
So basically all the following countries that are still engaging in trade with Israel are engaging in genocide against Palestine:
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Brazil
Canada
China
Costa Rica
Czechia
Denmark
Ecuador
Egypt
Estonia
Finland
France
Greece
Hungary
India
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Mexico
Moldova
Morocco
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Singapore
Slovakia
South Korea
Sweden
Switzerland
Thailand
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United States
Uruguay
Vietnam
They’ll point to Israel, Israel, Israel. Okay, sure, agreed.
But when you point out that China, North Korea, and Russia are all engaging in a blatant genocide against Ukraine – they suddenly cannot grasp the concept!
My political sanity check is to ask what one’s opinion is on Ukraine and Palestine.
See Ukrainians as victims of genocide but not Palestine? Zionist piece of shit. Palestinians are victims but Russia is justified? Tankie piece of shit. Don’t approve of either genocide? Might be a sane human being that actually dislikes genocide itself.
Genocide is when the killing is not being done by my friends.
War justification can cause some crazy opinions and stances.
See, I understand the sentiment, but then I also know many people who use terms like “tankie” also wouldn’t be super chill about anti-imperialism in any way related to abolishing the EU, US, Canada, Australia, etc. Not that is necessarily the case, but hardly worth focusing on “hypocrisy” without consistency.
You all for ending Canada or the US?
Israel isn’t a democracy.
How are China and North Korea engaging in blatant genocide against Ukraine?
North Korea is supporting the Russian war effort by providing troops. North Koreans have been fighting alongside Russian soldiers for a long while now. It’s actually worse, because North Korean soldiers are on the front lines they’re getting experience fighting a modern war. Which means that if North Korea ever gets into a shooting war with South Korea or the United States they’ll have experienced troops. Right now the best thing to do would be support Ukrainian forces because they’re also gaining experience fighting a modern war and could teach those skills to American and NATO troops.
As for China, I don’t know.
China supports Russia in a similar, but lesser, way to the US supporting Israel.
Ah oh no you pointed to Israel so that argument just doesn’t count.
I mean if that counted you could say that almost all the western nations are “blatantly engaging in genocide” for supporting Israel or preventing sanctions. That basically normalized genocide. It becomes an everyday thing. Genocide, schmemocide.
Obviously the removal of Children by Russia is considered a war crime and can amount to ethnic cleansing.
Well yeah, Russia is also gaining experience in drone warfare. It’s just one reason why I’m against continuing this war. We’re literally building up Russia as our enemy. The military elites in Russia all support this war, and the war economy is going to build up their weapons capabilities long term.
Oh so noble of you!
Wars can be won or lost. Surrender is always an option. Ukraine is down to ~45% of it’s prewar population, and it’s not certain how many refugees will want to return.
No I’m not “noble” I’m just an adult. Call me daddy. Don’t be a baby and crash out when you loose a little game of war. And eat some vegetables with your peace agreement! Ukraine is just fucked, but better them than us. I’m not spending fucking 5% of GDP on fucking Nato 3.0!
I’d celebrate that we get to own what is left of Ukraine but it’s obviously going to be owned by the banks. And then Ukraine is going to create their own “stab in the back” myth, really looking forward to that as well haha.
PS: I’m obviously bullshitting but that is more or less the shitty reality of the situation.
That a strange thing to say about the side that currently is winning.
Surrender equals to mass tortures, oppression, pillage and rape, thus less or more similar to continuation of war. Except you won’t be reading about it in the news. Adult my ass.
I’m Ukrainian, my father’s friends were killed this week by a random drone strike in their home. Get fucked with your vegetables.
I’m very sorry to hear about your sorrows. It doesn’t change my argument though.
This is bit much on the hyperbole and borders on incitement to racial hate. Trying to paint the Russians as some kind of orc people fell out of use like 2 years ago.
In any case a diplomatic solution would obviously require some kind of security guarantee (that includes security for Russia). This retired Commodore suggest the OSCE as a possible peacekeeping force.
How do you see this war ending? Just keep painting Russia as the supreme evil and push for endless confrontation, escalation, war? Some kind of wunderwaffe?
The new reality is that even NATO cannot cannot guarantee security, that article mentions this - the US has been practically been pushed back from the gulf by Iran. And Russia has better weapons than Iran. And neither US or Europe can afford to produce more weapons, and doesn’t even have the capacity.
And winter is going to be a problem with the self imposed energy crisis. The looming AI bubble is going to pop sooner or later. European countries are going to go into recessions, reactionary parties are going to get into power.
This fucking insanity and dream of total war has to stop. Why does Russia have to be my enemy? I don’t have to like them to get along.
NK provides troops and artillery shells. China keeps their market open to russi allowing drone and drone parts purchases - which are instantly weponized into loitering ammunition aka kamikaze drones
TBF to China, they’re selling to both sides.
The whole thing is a Helleresque farce.
For example:
A comedy for those who can think, a tragedy for those who can feel.
Obviously, there’s a war on, so take everything you read with a pinch of salt.
They are the Ferengi in this war.
War is good for business.
So basically all the following countries that are still engaging in trade with Israel are engaging in genocide against Palestine:
Argentina Australia Austria Brazil Canada China Costa Rica Czechia Denmark Ecuador Egypt Estonia Finland France Greece Hungary India Ireland Italy Japan Mexico Moldova Morocco Netherlands New Zealand Norway Paraguay Peru Philippines Poland Portugal Romania Singapore Slovakia South Korea Sweden Switzerland Thailand United Arab Emirates United Kingdom United States Uruguay Vietnam
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