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    4 days ago

    lol, I find it telling when Libs can’t actually address the points being made, and jump to unrelated, ad hominem attacks. In fact, it reminds me of the way a certain president discusses things when he knows he can’t defend his point of view…

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      Why would I address your points when you responded to mine with whataboutism?

      You’re a fucking MAGAt lmao, blue or red

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        Or… it could possibly be that you don’t have any data to back yourself up, so you have to resort to name-calling to make yourself feel significant.

        As someone who thinks things like genocide, rape, and bombing kids is bad, I always get a kick when Libs and Conservatives call me MAGA, or BlueMAGA, when I point out that their party supports those things. Yet for some reason, they never seem to have data to show that I’m wrong.

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          Quick question - would Kamala have pushed Project 2025? Yes or no.

          No, of course not.

          Followed up by asking if she’d also have attacked first amendment rights which you conveniently ignored.

          Yeah you’re just like MAGA, you’ve got your tag. I wouldn’t be surprised if you voted for Trump.

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            Followed up by asking if she’d also have attacked first amendment rights which you conveniently ignored.

            Oh, well let me clarify that: Yes, she would have. She proudly stood behind Biden when he did that.

            Yeah you’re just like MAGA, you’ve got your tag. I wouldn’t be surprised if you voted for Trump.

            Yes, I’m sure you believe that to be true. Actually reading what people write is hard, and I wouldn’t expect you to be able to step up to that challenge.

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                  Oh would you look at that, intellectual dishonesty.

                  First link, state police. Second link, state police - Biden also rejoined the Paris Agreement on his first day in office + signed the Inflation Reduction Act which invested hundreds of billions into clean energy initiatives. Third link, would ya look at that - Republicans called for Biden to send in the feds against protests; he didn’t. Fourth link, this father of a killed marine was personally invited by conservative representative Brian Mast and happens to be the only instance involving feds that you linked. Because he broke federal law. Also this was instantly used by Brian Mast to garner support for his party, so congrats on outting yourself again.

                  As for the timeline of govt attacks on journalists, oh would ya look at that: state police, state police, state police, state police. Not a single mention of Biden sending in feds! In fact, Biden revoked Trump’s executive order 13933 which Trump used to justify deploying feds to states during protests. He explicitly did not support calling in the National Guard or using federal forces to clear pro-Palestinian protests and left their policing up to, you guessed it, state police.

                  Try again, muppet - maybe this time you’ll provide evidence that wasn’t handpicked for you by conservatives.

                  Name policy, name direct action.

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                    First link, state police. Second link, state police…

                    Yes. The same state that Biden supported, and incrased funds for.

                    Biden also rejoined the Paris Agreement on his first day in office + signed the Inflation Reduction Act which invested hundreds of billions into clean energy initiatives.

                    So he signed a couple of bills that gave hundreds of billions to his friends. The same president that gave more oil drilling permits than Trump did. What a hero! But I fail to see what that has to do with what we are discussing.

                    Third link, would ya look at that - Republicans called for Biden to send in the feds against protests; he didn’t.

                    You are correct. But he also violated the law, and surpressed their speech, and sent them to be tortured in prison when he could have helped them out. And Harris stood behind him the whole way.

                    Fourth link, this father of a killed marine was personally invited by conservative representative Brian Mast and happens to be the only instance involving feds that you linked. Because he broke federal law.

                    Well, I guess if it’s a Republican, then they don’t deserve freedom of speech. We wouldn’t want to let pesky things like “principles” to get in the way and make a genocidist and rapist feel bad for killing people.

                    Also this was instantly used by Brian Mast to garner support for his party, so congrats on outting yourself again.

                    Weird. If only there was some way that Biden could have prevented this. If only he could have like, ya know, not sent people to die. This is just a self-own on Biden’s part.

                    As for the timeline of govt attacks on journalists, oh would ya look at that: state police, state police, state police, state police.

                    You mean the one that Biden ran? Well, yeah, you are right. It is a police state. Who funded and supported that? Oh, right, Biden.

                    Not a single mention of Biden sending in feds! In fact, Biden revoked Trump’s executive order 13933 which Trump used to justify deploying feds to states during protests. He explicitly did not support calling in the National Guard or using federal forces to clear pro-Palestinian protests and left their policing up to, you guessed it, state police.

                    Well, I guess we better tell the people who were arrested, tortured, raped, assaulted and sent to prison while Biden cheered on and funded the police doing it that, since it wasn’t the feds, Biden’s support was really him fighting against them. If only the helpless President had any kind of power in these situtations…

                    Try again, muppet - maybe this time you’ll provide evidence that wasn’t handpicked for you by conservatives.

                    So because someone I disagree with pointed out factual information, that means I should discard that information? Now I think I see why you are so confused about all of this. I follow data and facts, no matter who presents them to me. I find reality a lot easier to parse that way.

                    Name policy, name direct action.

                    I already did, but you refuse to look at it. I’ll leave that as an exercise to the reader, if they choose to actually try this time.