cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/52828517
By: @DrawingDramatic1641
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1wi4yjh/literally_how_every_conversation_goes/
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/52828517
By: @DrawingDramatic1641
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1wi4yjh/literally_how_every_conversation_goes/
Cowbee has already provided a wealth of information I would recommend starting with the article by Sun Feiyang and Roderic Day and delving into the sources provided.
This is a completely nonsensical and ridiculous reply to me simply pointing out that the protest was more complex than simply a student protest and that the violence was not so one sided and cartoonish but rather the result of clashes between rioters with such peaceful calls as
and the peaceful thoughts of CIA operative and student leader Chai Ling:
Who when asked:
Replied:
and the soldiers acting in place of riot police.
I am not at all against criticism of the handling of the events surrounding Tiananmen square in 1989 however that is not what you were doing rather you were merely obscuring the reality to allow yourself to apply easy blanket condemnation in place of real analysis and thought.
I haven’t issued any blanket condemnations. Rather I said thanks for the info, I’ll look into it. Even though it seems a lot of folks here prefer to ridicule me for being less terminally online. Not that that says anything about the merit of the arguments at hand, but “you’re a moron if you don’t already agree with every single thing I believe” isn’t exactly good publicity. Not gonna respond to those comments for obvious reasons.
Yeah you seem like a real grass-touching type, throwing a fit over being corrected.
I find people are generally more polite when you don’t call them hypocritical blind tribalists and nationalists for not conforming to what you think they should believe based on what you’ve simply osmosised from the hegemonic liberal view on the matter and instead stick to polite questions and requests for clarification until you’re more informed.
China survived the color revolution attempt in 89. Here on the western left we only accept martyrs and losers.