• Guy Ingonito@reddthat.com
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    15 days ago

    I feel for the dad.

    But you don’t prevent crime with a harsh punishment, you prevent it by guaranteeing the person gets caught.

    You know how you stop reckless driving? Automatic traffic cameras on every road that send you a nice fat fine whenever you violate the rules of the road.

    You’d save thousands of lives every year if every major road was monitored in this way.

    • RedAggroBest@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      “Guys, we just have to implement a surveillance state to cut down on traffic violations!”

      You see how dumb that sounds when you rephrase it?

      • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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        14 days ago

        I’m still for it. Nobody who’s behind the wheel of a car should have any privacy, since the tiniest mistake or moment of inattention on their part can kill or maim multiple other people in a fraction of a second.

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          14 days ago

          Oh yes, because cameras are so very selective and only watch when a car is driving by and only watch the person operating the vehicle.

          Everyone ELSE should not be expected to sacrifice their privacy is the point you’re entirely missing.

          • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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            13 days ago

            And your imaginary privacy isn’t worth my life of the lives of the people I care about is the point you’re deliberately ignoring.

      • Guy Ingonito@reddthat.com
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        14 days ago

        Your car and your phone are already surveilling you. You’re just arguing against automatic traffic fines at this point

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      15 days ago

      Flock you, looking for a surveillance state

      Imagine instead of roads were designed to discourage speeding, we weren’t as car dependent, and we started taking both drivers Ed and consequences seriously?

      • Guy Ingonito@reddthat.com
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        14 days ago

        Yeah I’d love a non-car oriented transit system but unfortunately 80% of the world would fight you tooth and nail to keep their metal livingrooms.

        The automatic and guarantee fines would do a lot of work getting people on board to ditch the cars.

    • bunnybunny@lemmy.zip
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      15 days ago

      There’s a big fucking difference between 120 hours community service and harsh punishment for killing someone’s family

      • crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub
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        15 days ago

        I did 40 hours for marijuana possession.

        Edit. i guess each human life is worth about an oz of pot

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      15 days ago

      You don’t curb crime with harsh punishments? So hefty automated fines for minor traffic infractions isn’t harsh punishment?

      You are clueless.

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      15 days ago

      If we are going to choose a technological solution then making autonomous emergency braking and electronically speed-limited cars mandatory would actually help more.

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        15 days ago

        Yeah that, coupled with building safer infrastructure, and investing in pedestrian, bicycle, and public transportation infrastructure in order to get people out of cars in the first place.

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      15 days ago

      Disagree hard. The punishment needs to be so severe that these dirtbags never get another chance to ruin people’s lives ever again, period!!!