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Are you seriously trying to make the argument that elon“if you advertisers don’t like my performative bootlicking bullshit then go fuck yourself”musk is doing something for the good of a business and NOT because of his vindictive, forever 13 year-old, ultra-divorced, fermented hair plug influenced personal political positions?
You’re 1000% confusing this coincidentally being a move that might not get him banned in Russia, with that being the core motivation. There’s a disconnect in your comment, last two statements are valid, first is cookoo bananas.
Honestly nationalizing it would be a bad idea. Once it’s government owned, then the 1st amendment would actually apply and banning people, including the more openly Nazi accounts than you can imagine, would probably be illegal. It would be overrun with even more heinous filth than it houses now.
It really is best for everyone that Twitter dies, and good news! Under Musk’s incredible zero-win leadership, it looks pretty inevitable!
Yeah, this. Practically speaking the only country that could nationalize Twitter is the US. It’s already a pain in the ass doing moderation without getting the US Constitution in there. It wouldn’t just be the 1st amendment, you might also get lawsuits based on other constitutional protections. I 100% guarantee, the US government does not want to get involved.
Why stop with Xitter? I personally feel like there should be a national equivalent to the corporate search engines, job boards, etc. National alternatives to everything.
Oh, the anti-vax broflakes and maga cult will vacate that thing in droves. If the right country ‘owns’ it - thinking Jacinda Ardern’s government if we had a time machine, or just the UN now - then advertisers may come back. Or it may just exist as a cost-free platform for cat pics and tsunami/twister alerts.
Wait. Isn’t that what we want? No halfwit conspiracy fucknuts, and a still-usable platform? Where do the bots using it for C&C fit into this?
Public spaces should be government owned. Each country could have its own public servers with a guaranteed spot for every citizen. People can cross post.
If you want anonymity you can have private servers too.
Because Musk curates the platform to Russia’s standards. If Xitter didn’t do stuff like suspening Navalny’s wife, Russia might decide to go to a Chinese platform or try to develop their own.
I’ll explain it to you really simply: his business are based in america not in russia. He’s also directly involved with the usa government and the usa military.
People greedy for money don’t care where their profits come from, given that i still think it’s naive to call him a putin stooge when the majority of his money comes from usa thanks to his links with us government.
And if he wants to align with the US, why would he ban her, when she’s being a motor against the Russian government, a clear enemy of the US? His actions go against the assumption that he is US aligned.
Well guess what they are not banned anymore. I’ll ask you another question, if the ceo of usa and the ceo of russia telephone him asking for a favor which one do you think would get the priority?
Tell me again how musk-ovi isn’t a putin stooge
He doesn’t want Xitter to get banned in Russia and there are no consequences for arbitrarily banning people. Pretty obviously just business.
Wish people would stop using that site.
Or someone would nationalize it.
If he’s being a putin stooge because it’s good for his business, he’s still being a putin stooge.
(pst that’s just capitalism)
I’d prefer for it to crash and burn, not nationalize it and bail him out of his bad investment.
You’re right, we should nationalize all of his assets.
Thats more like it
Who said anything about compensating him?
Or if we do, compensate him at it’s actual value not the absurd price he paid for it
… On second thought, nevermind, seize it outright, he doesn’t deserve a damned thing for it
“Just business”
Are you seriously trying to make the argument that elon “if you advertisers don’t like my performative bootlicking bullshit then go fuck yourself” musk is doing something for the good of a business and NOT because of his vindictive, forever 13 year-old, ultra-divorced, fermented hair plug influenced personal political positions?
You’re 1000% confusing this coincidentally being a move that might not get him banned in Russia, with that being the core motivation. There’s a disconnect in your comment, last two statements are valid, first is cookoo bananas.
Well, It has been blocked for 2 years now. How Do You Like This, Elon Musk?)
Honestly nationalizing it would be a bad idea. Once it’s government owned, then the 1st amendment would actually apply and banning people, including the more openly Nazi accounts than you can imagine, would probably be illegal. It would be overrun with even more heinous filth than it houses now.
It really is best for everyone that Twitter dies, and good news! Under Musk’s incredible zero-win leadership, it looks pretty inevitable!
Openly Nazi accounts already avoid getting banned so that doesn’t really change anything.
Though you’re right, we need to pack the Court first and undo right-wing jurisprudence.
Yeah, this. Practically speaking the only country that could nationalize Twitter is the US. It’s already a pain in the ass doing moderation without getting the US Constitution in there. It wouldn’t just be the 1st amendment, you might also get lawsuits based on other constitutional protections. I 100% guarantee, the US government does not want to get involved.
Why stop with Xitter? I personally feel like there should be a national equivalent to the corporate search engines, job boards, etc. National alternatives to everything.
Too bad it already is for last 3 years
Oh, the anti-vax broflakes and maga cult will vacate that thing in droves. If the right country ‘owns’ it - thinking Jacinda Ardern’s government if we had a time machine, or just the UN now - then advertisers may come back. Or it may just exist as a cost-free platform for cat pics and tsunami/twister alerts.
Wait. Isn’t that what we want? No halfwit conspiracy fucknuts, and a still-usable platform? Where do the bots using it for C&C fit into this?
Public spaces should be government owned. Each country could have its own public servers with a guaranteed spot for every citizen. People can cross post.
If you want anonymity you can have private servers too.
So what you’re saying is Lemmy needs lobbyists!
Honestly just ActivityPub. And being backed by the W3C id assume there already are discussions in countries where corruption is less prevalent.
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Putin would never ban X in Russia, are you crazy?
“Hmm yes, banning my best propaganda tool. This is the move.” - Not Putin
Because Musk curates the platform to Russia’s standards. If Xitter didn’t do stuff like suspening Navalny’s wife, Russia might decide to go to a Chinese platform or try to develop their own.
Banning Starlink from Ukraine but not Russia… Banning Putin’s adversaries… Hmmmmmmm
I’ll explain it to you really simply: his business are based in america not in russia. He’s also directly involved with the usa government and the usa military.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX#Contracts
People greedy for money don’t care where their profits come from, given that i still think it’s naive to call him a putin stooge when the majority of his money comes from usa thanks to his links with us government.
And if he wants to align with the US, why would he ban her, when she’s being a motor against the Russian government, a clear enemy of the US? His actions go against the assumption that he is US aligned.
I think because of ACF. Probably he is tied to corruption in Russia.
Well guess what they are not banned anymore. I’ll ask you another question, if the ceo of usa and the ceo of russia telephone him asking for a favor which one do you think would get the priority?
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I’m not white knighting for anyone, who are you white knighting for?