• rtxn@lemmy.world
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    You block ads because of privacy.

    I block ads to cause the greatest amount of financial damage, purely out of spite.

    We are not the same.

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        Yeah that’s my whole thing with ads, I understand monetization is necessary but it’s gotten so far out of fucking hand

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          I agree. Small, non-intrusive banner ads with an easy close button are fine. They get the message across without getting in anyone’s way.

          The problem is the ads that stop you from doing anything for the best part of a minute. I don’t see how anyone has ever been convinced to buy whatever product is being advertised by these, but somehow, they’re the ones that are everywhere.

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    Steal. To take another person’s property without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

    Take. To remove someone or something from a particular place.

    I’m not taking anything, I’m merely creating a copy of it. I would 100% download a car if that meant cloning someone’s car for free and without damaging the original one.

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      This doesn’t get said enough. Piracy is only damaging if I would have paid to get the thing in the first place. If I’m pirating something that I would have avoided entirely had I needed to pay, literally no one is taking any losses.

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              Yes, but for me it’s just not worth the price that the official distribution channels are asking for it. If I didn’t have a free way to consume the content, I would skip it, and I wouldn’t lose anything by doing that. There is plenty of other content to consume, a lot of it legally for free.

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              I’m not saying that piracy, as a general concept, results in zero losses for a company. There are people who would have paid to see a thing, who won’t thanks to piracy. I am saying that there is also a ton of stuff I would never pay to see, but would happily watch if it were free. Having some interest in a thing isn’t the same as being willing to pay for it.

              Hell, there’s also stuff that I saw thanks to piracy that I wound up liking so much I went back and paid for a copy. In that sense, companies can make money through piracy. The point is that piracy isn’t taking something like theft is, it’s copying something.

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              What does this statement mean then? Why would you pirate something if you had no interest in it? If it’s interesting enough to download, it must have been worth something to you.

              Sure. But it doesn’t mean it’s worth the asking price to me. Because I can’t negotiate on that price, my interest is effectively worth nothing to the company.

              Let’s pretend for a minute that piracy wasn’t an option. In that scenario, I simply wouldn’t watch it. Therefore, there’s no potential that the company will get money from me, and there’s no opportunity for them to get money. Because there’s no opportunity, there’s no opportunity cost for the company to me pirating the content.

              That’s what people are talking about when they talk about the company losing money to piracy. They’re talking about the unrealized potential income of people that would have paid for the content, but didn’t because they pirated it instead. The counterpoint to that is that there’s no way I’m going to pay for it. Therefore, there’s no unrealized potential income. They’re not out of anything by me pirating their company.

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        If it creates a copy of it, like a car-sized star trek replicator, sure. It wouldn’t matter who’s car you’re cloning as long as no harm is done to the original car.

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        Wrong, I could get mad, just wouldn’t call it theft because it’s not.

        I hope your friends like it enough to buy it if they get the chance uwu I’d be doing my best to provide a better product/service than the pirate alternative.

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    I don’t know why some people sugar coat it.

    I’d pirate anyway because I don’t wanna spend money, and so would a lot of people who instead choose to hide behind excuses.

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    I used to NOT advocate for piracy. I still pirated shit because I did not want to pay but I never suggested that it was the right thing to do. But the way that these corporations try to fuck their customers more and more I feel like paying for something is basically tipping a billionaire. Their pockets are bottomless and they will figure out a hundred different ways to make sure they don’t pay taxes on those billions while the rest of us have to pay a third of our hard earned cash in taxes. Piracy is not only OK, I think it is warranted at this point.

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      “Copyright infringement”: when a shitty set of laws, known collectively as copyright laws, infringe not just on people individual rights but also on the advancing and progressing of society.

      300% real definition

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    I just enjoy having 1 app to browse the content I want to watch instead of a dozen different apps that suck in their own special ways.

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      plex won’t download properly on my phone, but it’s not because some big company decided that I’m not allowed to do that, it’s just cause the devs suck.

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    The crazy thing is that you’ve been tricked into thinking piracy even is theft

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      When subtraction is equivalent to addition because capitalists needs to justify owning the means of production.

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    If those corporations are allowed to do it, then so are we.

    Even the corporation that made all those “You wouldn’t download a car” ads are now downloading actors for their movies.

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    obligatory “if buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing”

    and also there’s a moral argument for data preservation here somewhere

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      Copyright infringement isn’t a crime though, only commercial copyright infringement is.