Some Americans will justify not voting by using Palestine as an example. Well, yeah, your dems suck too but it’s not a reason to not take action. Voting is easy enough, and at least it really works. Fantasizing about the Revolution won’t do shit.
Also voting is a way to shift the Overton window. If the left wing party has a thumping majority, those in the party with more radical views (like being against genocide /s) actually have room to manoeuvre and pressure their leader, or even to split off and form their own party.
The Overton window has been shifting to the right for 60 years because the “opposition” party keeps looking to court right wing votes and offers no challenge to capitalism. The Democrat party wasn’t even in full support of gay marriage until like 2012.
The “vote for the lesser evil, do nothing else, and never demand the party move left” option has seen the Overton window shift right consistently, yet here we are, hearing the same things again from the same people and you’re saying actually the opposite of this strategy will happen now for some reason.
People voted for “hope and change” in 2008 and got Barrack Obama and a Heritage Foundation health care reform. Then the reaction brought Trump.
Vote in more milquetoast liberals, and don’t be shocked when worse fascists start gaining ground because your candidates fail to even address the fundamental problem (capitalism), much less tackle it.
It still doesn’t mean you shouldn’t vote. All the other things you’re talking about are political actions that need citizens’ involvement. It’s a start, not a solution. After you vote, you don’t stop your political life.
many of them became rich, or wealthy if they voted with the gop on many things, they arnt going to let that go. thats why people have a hunch that closed door deals they often meet with mitch who was majority leader most of the time.
The rubber stamp Congress for the left in the US gave you the great society reforms, and Medicaid is still in place as a safety net for a huge number of Americans, and has been for 60 years. Even if the system is imperfect, it’s had a massive positive influence on the lives of Americans who’ve suffered under the current medical system. The point is that there hasn’t been consistent support for democrats over a number of elections since — Obama, Clinton and Biden is all there’s been over the past 60 years, so it’s clear that the American electorate that votes, both inside and outside the Democrat party, prefers republicans or republican-lites. So you end up with republican-lite or fascists because of apathy.
For a UK example, until recently the triple lock on pensions has sat untouched for far too long because it was considered electoral suicide to try and prise money from pensioners grasp because they vote consistently, despite broad consensus that it was a good idea.
I remember back in the 2010s the argument for not cracking down on the far right in the USA was that that would trigger a civil war. We saw on J6 how many would show up to fight on their side. They were all there. Now, unfortunately they control the military, so it’s much harder.
Coward liberals always paving the road for the fascists that come after them.
Makes you wonder what percentage of them are foreign adversaries trying to weaken the US (and its allies) - or simply help fascism - by helping the GOP.
Sure, they all say they simply want the US to stop being fascist, but telling people not to vote for Democrats in the General definitely isn’t helping that.
Won’t help, they don’t really have an incentive to host their shit on Yandex anymore. Even if there was anything in the first place, I’ve yet to find a good proof of bot activity being disrupted during those bombings. Don’t get me wrong, it would be a very good story, but SWEs in Russia can be pretty competent.
VK has its own infra in Mail.Ru datacenters. And because they’ve been serving the government in a larger extent (VK is basically your direct line to FSB), it’s pretty strange that Yandex was targeted instead.
This is really why I keep commenting. I’m usually lurking on any platform but it’s so easy to manipulate the narrative with bots, I feel like I have to voice those OBVIOUS things out.
Bus stop metaphor. Even if we cant take a train directly where we need to get to, at least we can take a bus in the correct direction.
Best mental description ever. Even self described republicans can surely grasp this idea to be rid of what we have now. I’m heading over to the Library this afternoon to vote early :) ive never voted a straight ticket before. Sort of excited.
In the absolute worst case, the Dems are equally as bad as the GOP on Palestine (though I haven’t seen many Democrats support building Trump resorts over the rubble).
In that worst case, then Palestine isn’t on the ballot, and you shouldn’t base your vote on it, but on everything else happening. The lesser of 2 evils isn’t an exciting vote, but it is, in fact, a lesser evil and preferable to the GOP.
No, in the absolute best case, Dems will be even worse than Republicans so far. But still less bad then what Republicans would become if they got another term. So yes, vote for them, if it makes sense in your state. Just keep your expectations in check.
Here’s the proof:
(1) US capitalism at it’s current stage of decline absolutely needs fascism to survive. Profit rates are just too low, any semblance of democracy would be used by the people to prevent pushing real wages even lower, but that’s needed for the engine of the dying economy to sputter on. The empire is dying, no way around it. Like every single time fascism has occurred in history, it will rise this time too, to save capitalism in crisis.
(2) The Democrats are a capitalist party.
(3) Ergo, the Democrats will urgently push to hasten the march towards fascism.
This is not even a prediction, just an observation, a simple statement of fact. You can’t reform your way out of the cold, mathematical laws of economics.
Revolution is not a “fantasy”, it’s literally the only viable alternative to unimaginable suffering. Voting for Democrats can only serve to buy time to organize for real change. In the coming necessary struggle, Dems are the on the same side as Republicans and on the opposite side of humanity and life on earth.
Everything is touched by capitalism. I don’t understand how in the fuck that might make any US-American who knows what they’re doing not vote for Dems though.
Capitalists might help fascists but fascists are fascists.
Well, yeah, I agree that almost everything around us is either touched by or a product of capitalism. What I mean is that you can’t just say “everything is shit because it’s capitalism”.
I don’t think people are butthurt it gets pointed out. The stupidity of how and the bias of what is the problem.
People out here trying to act like the US is the only one who has done this. Many of these people try to act like other countries don’t court soft power, that this campaign to dissuade voting every election isn’t intentional and that the solution is to just let millions of people suffer so armchair activists can pretend they told you so.
So it’s fucking stupid to cry capitalism at every turn when the issues are actually larger than capitalism and many of them actually aren’t from capitalism. Power structures in general, representation, honest and truthful information, greed for control and money. Those issues are way fucking bigger than capitalism, they’re basically timeless human struggles.
Calling it all capitalism and throwing yourself in a fit over it is childish. The fuck is this 2010? People actually do want to push society forward not just make a new boogieman and act like if that’s gone we’ll have a utopia.
That makes sense. I am well aware it is not just the US and a worldwide symptom of the worship of money over human beings.
I agree that we need too move forward, but we can’t if people don’t know what is causing the problems. People have been propagandized to so much they don’t know where the truth begins or ends anymore.
Definitely. It’s that class war shit, information control is the bread and butter for those bastards. If we undid capitalism new people would just find more ways to game the system against the majority.
Yeah the old socialism vs. capitalism debate needs to die. Not that socialism isn’t worthwhile, its just we are not going to get there anytime soon. We need a new paradigm that capitalists can accept so we can move beyond our current leverage economy.
Get the fuck out of here with your fascist apologia bullshit. “BuT vOtInG dOeSn’T wOrK” in a thread literally about voting working. What the fuck do you expect to accomplish with that pathetic, defeatist loser attitude? “Oohh waaah voting doesn’t help so I’ll just sit here and do nothing but discourage everyone else around me to not vote either and then complain more when things get worse and worse”
Wallow in your misery by yourself instead of trying to drag an entire country into your whiny bitchbaby bullshit too
Lol, keep doing the thing that hasn’t worked for 50 years, I’m sure it’ll start working any day now!
The only thing voting for Neoliberal ghouls accomplishes is making it easier for Fascists to win the next election. Liberalism and Fascism are two sides of the same coin, that’s why Liberals always happily compromise with fascists but will never compromise with socialists.
Lol, stay mad tho. That rage will be very useful to you once you finally realize for yourself that the people with all the wealth and power will never allow you to vote it away.
Vote or don’t. But don’t kid yourself it changes anything but aesthetics, and don’t disappear back to the brunch spot when your preferred Neoliberal ghouls win an election.
Man, you’re such a good little propaganda spreader, intentionally misrepresenting other arguements, pretending you have ‘political experience’ and drawing massive conclusions about others based on nothing and encouraging everyone to stop voting, because that’ll surely get things to change this time! Who’s your handler? I wanna give them props for digging you out of the dirt and giving you a ‘job’
Then get your ass out of your La-Z-Boy, throw on your slippers and go vote for actual progressive candidates instead of complaining how unfair the world is like your opinion matters more than a dog’s wet fart. You sit there and act like you’re such an enlightened genius because you realize both sides are bad, so instead of doing something to change either of the sides, you sit around and encourage everyone else to sit around and just bitch about it. Unless you’re doing literally anything to try and change literally anything, you can shove this pro-fascist garbage up your own ass and stop trying to convince other people that doing nothing is the right choice. Fucking loser attitude
I spent a decade working my ass off for progressive candidates. Which means I know how the party actually works and how it prevents anyone who isn’t a Third Way Foundation certified Neoliberal ghoul from ever getting to touch any real power.
You should do the same. You’ll learn the same lesson and you’ll become another bitter middle aged communist arguing online with children who think their 10th grade civics class understands of politics qualifies them to tell you anything at all.
For someone who claims to have 10 years of political experience, you sure seem to be pretty ignorant of the point of voting or how it works. As someone with actual experience, I can confidently say you’re an idiot making shit up to try to interfere with elections
What’s your actual experience? You clearly don’t understand how the power structures in the Democratic Party work, your “actual experience” is what, phone banking and maybe door knocking?
If you actually know anything about it, then refute my central point: the Democratic Party as an institution exists to protect Wall St, and while Progressives are welcome aboard as long as they keep the left flank reliably voting “Blue No Matter Who”, they will never be allowed to have any real power inside the party or any real influence on policy. Explain how I’m wrong if you actually know anything at all about who controls what in the Democratic Party.
What ten year period did you spend working on campaigns for Democratic candidates? What other bona fides do you have to talk about party politics and the organization of the Democratic Party as a whole with any authority?
Seems to me like you’re the one highlighting your ignorance by dismissing someone with a lot more relevant experience in the subject at hand with nothing but a “nuh-uh!!”.
And that means that like I’ve been saying all along, you and everyone else happily accepting narratives from billionaire owned media are the actual reason we’re here.
You’re such a monumental moron it’s impressive. I’ve never said I supported billionaires or Liberals, but that’s all you can assume. Either your brain has become mush or you’re Israeli or Russian, but either way it’s an embarassment to argue with you any further
I do live in the US. And the only thing that was different under them was that it was closer in time to the time when the USSR existed and capital had to compromise with labor to keep labor from revolting. The further we get, the more compromised are rolled back (by both parties, regardless of who’s nominally in power), the worse it seems, but that’s just linear time, not Dem administrations being better.
You know where things were absolutely not any better under Obama, Biden, or Clinton? Anywhere outside the Imperial Core. I promise the people of Libya are not thanking Obama and Hillary for bringing open air slave markets to Tripoli, the people of Gaza aren’t thanking Biden for turbocharging their genocide, fucking nobody with a brain thinks Clinton did anything good for anyone but his Wall St donors. To say
I can promise you it was much different under Obama, Biden and Clinton.
Is to say that you don’t see people outside the US and Western Europe as fully human.
Lol, we’re simply making observations. But that’s a cute deflection.
You could try going back to what I originally wrote and responding to its actual substance instead of dismissing any criticism you don’t have a talking point to counter as bots and evil foreigners, but I doubt you will.
Are you doing anything about it? How do you actually see it happening? Real questions.
And yeah, I mean, it’s a shitty vote, but it’s harmless to go and just do it. It CAN be worse if you don’t. Fuck, even my compatriots vote while being under dictatorship.
Some Americans will justify not voting by using Palestine as an example. Well, yeah, your dems suck too but it’s not a reason to not take action. Voting is easy enough, and at least it really works. Fantasizing about the Revolution won’t do shit.
Also voting is a way to shift the Overton window. If the left wing party has a thumping majority, those in the party with more radical views (like being against genocide /s) actually have room to manoeuvre and pressure their leader, or even to split off and form their own party.
The Overton window has been shifting to the right for 60 years because the “opposition” party keeps looking to court right wing votes and offers no challenge to capitalism. The Democrat party wasn’t even in full support of gay marriage until like 2012.
The “vote for the lesser evil, do nothing else, and never demand the party move left” option has seen the Overton window shift right consistently, yet here we are, hearing the same things again from the same people and you’re saying actually the opposite of this strategy will happen now for some reason.
People voted for “hope and change” in 2008 and got Barrack Obama and a Heritage Foundation health care reform. Then the reaction brought Trump.
Vote in more milquetoast liberals, and don’t be shocked when worse fascists start gaining ground because your candidates fail to even address the fundamental problem (capitalism), much less tackle it.
It still doesn’t mean you shouldn’t vote. All the other things you’re talking about are political actions that need citizens’ involvement. It’s a start, not a solution. After you vote, you don’t stop your political life.
+1. Organise and vote — don’t just do one.
many of them became rich, or wealthy if they voted with the gop on many things, they arnt going to let that go. thats why people have a hunch that closed door deals they often meet with mitch who was majority leader most of the time.
The rubber stamp Congress for the left in the US gave you the great society reforms, and Medicaid is still in place as a safety net for a huge number of Americans, and has been for 60 years. Even if the system is imperfect, it’s had a massive positive influence on the lives of Americans who’ve suffered under the current medical system. The point is that there hasn’t been consistent support for democrats over a number of elections since — Obama, Clinton and Biden is all there’s been over the past 60 years, so it’s clear that the American electorate that votes, both inside and outside the Democrat party, prefers republicans or republican-lites. So you end up with republican-lite or fascists because of apathy.
For a UK example, until recently the triple lock on pensions has sat untouched for far too long because it was considered electoral suicide to try and prise money from pensioners grasp because they vote consistently, despite broad consensus that it was a good idea.
Exactly. People can’t just fix everything in one go. And having a “left” majority will at least give a chance to shift the narrative.
I remember back in the 2010s the argument for not cracking down on the far right in the USA was that that would trigger a civil war. We saw on J6 how many would show up to fight on their side. They were all there. Now, unfortunately they control the military, so it’s much harder.
Coward liberals always paving the road for the fascists that come after them.
I’m getting people posting in trans communities telling me not to vote for democrats.
Makes you wonder what percentage of them are foreign adversaries trying to weaken the US (and its allies) - or simply help fascism - by helping the GOP.
Sure, they all say they simply want the US to stop being fascist, but telling people not to vote for Democrats in the General definitely isn’t helping that.
Ukraine should bomb another Yandex datacenter.
Won’t help, they don’t really have an incentive to host their shit on Yandex anymore. Even if there was anything in the first place, I’ve yet to find a good proof of bot activity being disrupted during those bombings. Don’t get me wrong, it would be a very good story, but SWEs in Russia can be pretty competent.
Maybe destroying a datacenter used by VK would help disrupt the spread of propaganda inside Russia.
VK has its own infra in Mail.Ru datacenters. And because they’ve been serving the government in a larger extent (VK is basically your direct line to FSB), it’s pretty strange that Yandex was targeted instead.
You can’t say that, it threatens the lives of our “friends” over at .ml
This is really why I keep commenting. I’m usually lurking on any platform but it’s so easy to manipulate the narrative with bots, I feel like I have to voice those OBVIOUS things out.
Some communities/instances work furiously to ensure those voices are boosted and ours are suppressed.
Pop an echo chamber bubble, watch the ban come.
Same people, different disguise, specially on Lemmy.
Don’t forget foreigners posing as Americans to help encourage voter apathy among Americans (so the GOP can win).
Bus stop metaphor. Even if we cant take a train directly where we need to get to, at least we can take a bus in the correct direction.
Best mental description ever. Even self described republicans can surely grasp this idea to be rid of what we have now. I’m heading over to the Library this afternoon to vote early :) ive never voted a straight ticket before. Sort of excited.
This assumes there is a bus going in the correct direction instead of two buses both going in the wrong direction at different speeds.
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In the absolute worst case, the Dems are equally as bad as the GOP on Palestine (though I haven’t seen many Democrats support building Trump resorts over the rubble).
In that worst case, then Palestine isn’t on the ballot, and you shouldn’t base your vote on it, but on everything else happening. The lesser of 2 evils isn’t an exciting vote, but it is, in fact, a lesser evil and preferable to the GOP.
No, in the absolute best case, Dems will be even worse than Republicans so far. But still less bad then what Republicans would become if they got another term. So yes, vote for them, if it makes sense in your state. Just keep your expectations in check.
Here’s the proof: (1) US capitalism at it’s current stage of decline absolutely needs fascism to survive. Profit rates are just too low, any semblance of democracy would be used by the people to prevent pushing real wages even lower, but that’s needed for the engine of the dying economy to sputter on. The empire is dying, no way around it. Like every single time fascism has occurred in history, it will rise this time too, to save capitalism in crisis.
(2) The Democrats are a capitalist party.
(3) Ergo, the Democrats will urgently push to hasten the march towards fascism.
This is not even a prediction, just an observation, a simple statement of fact. You can’t reform your way out of the cold, mathematical laws of economics.
Revolution is not a “fantasy”, it’s literally the only viable alternative to unimaginable suffering. Voting for Democrats can only serve to buy time to organize for real change. In the coming necessary struggle, Dems are the on the same side as Republicans and on the opposite side of humanity and life on earth.
Dude, are you for real? Touch some grass, not everything in life is capitalism.
Everything is touched by capitalism. I don’t understand how in the fuck that might make any US-American who knows what they’re doing not vote for Dems though.
Capitalists might help fascists but fascists are fascists.
Well, yeah, I agree that almost everything around us is either touched by or a product of capitalism. What I mean is that you can’t just say “everything is shit because it’s capitalism”.
Capitalism currently controls nearly every aspect of society. We are all living in a fascist world, don’t get butthurt when it is pointed out.
I don’t think people are butthurt it gets pointed out. The stupidity of how and the bias of what is the problem.
People out here trying to act like the US is the only one who has done this. Many of these people try to act like other countries don’t court soft power, that this campaign to dissuade voting every election isn’t intentional and that the solution is to just let millions of people suffer so armchair activists can pretend they told you so.
So it’s fucking stupid to cry capitalism at every turn when the issues are actually larger than capitalism and many of them actually aren’t from capitalism. Power structures in general, representation, honest and truthful information, greed for control and money. Those issues are way fucking bigger than capitalism, they’re basically timeless human struggles.
Calling it all capitalism and throwing yourself in a fit over it is childish. The fuck is this 2010? People actually do want to push society forward not just make a new boogieman and act like if that’s gone we’ll have a utopia.
That makes sense. I am well aware it is not just the US and a worldwide symptom of the worship of money over human beings.
I agree that we need too move forward, but we can’t if people don’t know what is causing the problems. People have been propagandized to so much they don’t know where the truth begins or ends anymore.
Definitely. It’s that class war shit, information control is the bread and butter for those bastards. If we undid capitalism new people would just find more ways to game the system against the majority.
But also fuck capitalism
Yeah the old socialism vs. capitalism debate needs to die. Not that socialism isn’t worthwhile, its just we are not going to get there anytime soon. We need a new paradigm that capitalists can accept so we can move beyond our current leverage economy.
The Republicans are actually fucking fascist!!! You have to be joking here, right?
Sounds about right to me.
Too soon dude, save it for after the resource wars.
Even at worst, where your candidate doesn’t win, it wouldn’t hurt anything.
At least you’d be doing something, compared to doing nothing.
Provided your definition of “works” is to preserve an untenable status quo against the people who want to make it worse, then sure.
For those of us looking for actual improvement, voting hasn’t “worked” in over 50 years.
Get the fuck out of here with your fascist apologia bullshit. “BuT vOtInG dOeSn’T wOrK” in a thread literally about voting working. What the fuck do you expect to accomplish with that pathetic, defeatist loser attitude? “Oohh waaah voting doesn’t help so I’ll just sit here and do nothing but discourage everyone else around me to not vote either and then complain more when things get worse and worse”
Wallow in your misery by yourself instead of trying to drag an entire country into your whiny bitchbaby bullshit too
Lol, keep doing the thing that hasn’t worked for 50 years, I’m sure it’ll start working any day now!
The only thing voting for Neoliberal ghouls accomplishes is making it easier for Fascists to win the next election. Liberalism and Fascism are two sides of the same coin, that’s why Liberals always happily compromise with fascists but will never compromise with socialists.
Lol, stay mad tho. That rage will be very useful to you once you finally realize for yourself that the people with all the wealth and power will never allow you to vote it away.
Typical ml user
Typical. world user.
See how silly that sounds?
The commie is on the commie instance, more on this developing story as it unfolds…
Step 1: don’t vote
Step 2: ???
Step 3: ???
Step 4: ??? (But please don’t vote! 🥺)
Vote or don’t. But don’t kid yourself it changes anything but aesthetics, and don’t disappear back to the brunch spot when your preferred Neoliberal ghouls win an election.
This is how I know you’re not American.
If you think Biden vs Trump was solely aesthetics you’re absolutely clueless. You are brain rotted from media.
Sorry, that’s not commie points you’re regurgitating. Just idiot points.
“Anyone opposed to continuing to do the thing that’s been making things worse for forty years is an idiot” and other very serious Liberal thoughts.
Man, you’re such a good little propaganda spreader, intentionally misrepresenting other arguements, pretending you have ‘political experience’ and drawing massive conclusions about others based on nothing and encouraging everyone to stop voting, because that’ll surely get things to change this time! Who’s your handler? I wanna give them props for digging you out of the dirt and giving you a ‘job’
Then get your ass out of your La-Z-Boy, throw on your slippers and go vote for actual progressive candidates instead of complaining how unfair the world is like your opinion matters more than a dog’s wet fart. You sit there and act like you’re such an enlightened genius because you realize both sides are bad, so instead of doing something to change either of the sides, you sit around and encourage everyone else to sit around and just bitch about it. Unless you’re doing literally anything to try and change literally anything, you can shove this pro-fascist garbage up your own ass and stop trying to convince other people that doing nothing is the right choice. Fucking loser attitude
I spent a decade working my ass off for progressive candidates. Which means I know how the party actually works and how it prevents anyone who isn’t a Third Way Foundation certified Neoliberal ghoul from ever getting to touch any real power.
You should do the same. You’ll learn the same lesson and you’ll become another bitter middle aged communist arguing online with children who think their 10th grade civics class understands of politics qualifies them to tell you anything at all.
For someone who claims to have 10 years of political experience, you sure seem to be pretty ignorant of the point of voting or how it works. As someone with actual experience, I can confidently say you’re an idiot making shit up to try to interfere with elections
What’s your actual experience? You clearly don’t understand how the power structures in the Democratic Party work, your “actual experience” is what, phone banking and maybe door knocking?
If you actually know anything about it, then refute my central point: the Democratic Party as an institution exists to protect Wall St, and while Progressives are welcome aboard as long as they keep the left flank reliably voting “Blue No Matter Who”, they will never be allowed to have any real power inside the party or any real influence on policy. Explain how I’m wrong if you actually know anything at all about who controls what in the Democratic Party.
You make an amazing amount of assumptions about other people while highlighting your own ignorance. You’re the reason we’re where we are.
What ten year period did you spend working on campaigns for Democratic candidates? What other bona fides do you have to talk about party politics and the organization of the Democratic Party as a whole with any authority?
Seems to me like you’re the one highlighting your ignorance by dismissing someone with a lot more relevant experience in the subject at hand with nothing but a “nuh-uh!!”.
And that means that like I’ve been saying all along, you and everyone else happily accepting narratives from billionaire owned media are the actual reason we’re here.
You’re such a monumental moron it’s impressive. I’ve never said I supported billionaires or Liberals, but that’s all you can assume. Either your brain has become mush or you’re Israeli or Russian, but either way it’s an embarassment to argue with you any further
I question these comments when I read them.
Do you live in the US?
I can promise you it was much different under Obama, Biden and Clinton.
I do live in the US. And the only thing that was different under them was that it was closer in time to the time when the USSR existed and capital had to compromise with labor to keep labor from revolting. The further we get, the more compromised are rolled back (by both parties, regardless of who’s nominally in power), the worse it seems, but that’s just linear time, not Dem administrations being better.
You know where things were absolutely not any better under Obama, Biden, or Clinton? Anywhere outside the Imperial Core. I promise the people of Libya are not thanking Obama and Hillary for bringing open air slave markets to Tripoli, the people of Gaza aren’t thanking Biden for turbocharging their genocide, fucking nobody with a brain thinks Clinton did anything good for anyone but his Wall St donors. To say
Is to say that you don’t see people outside the US and Western Europe as fully human.
Lmfao. Bro you’re cooked. No idea what you’re talking about. Just rah rah rah talking points!
Your inability to understand simple concepts is a you problem, not a problem with the concepts.
Highly unlikely
“Anyone who doesn’t regurgitate the billionaire owned media narrative is a dirty foreigner or subhuman bot”
What a very serious and not at all insane political philosophy you have there.
Lol, we’re simply making observations. But that’s a cute deflection.
You could try going back to what I originally wrote and responding to its actual substance instead of dismissing any criticism you don’t have a talking point to counter as bots and evil foreigners, but I doubt you will.
You’re literally leaping to conclusions.
If voting didn’t matter. They wouldn’t dump so much effort and money into it. All of it. The media machine, the trolls online, the ads, all of it.
It clearly fucking matters.
Are you doing anything about it? How do you actually see it happening? Real questions.
And yeah, I mean, it’s a shitty vote, but it’s harmless to go and just do it. It CAN be worse if you don’t. Fuck, even my compatriots vote while being under dictatorship.