I’m leaning into the right of this meme more and more with every passing day
I’m in this image and I dont like it.
The dystopian cyberpunk future William Gibson tried to warn us about.
Spoiler: We’re already living in it.
“The future is already here, it’s just not evenly distributed.”
The sky the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel has never looked prettier though…
Dunno. But fascism is what happens after it succeeds.
If there isn’t a large Socialist coalition to combat fascism, then fascism will rise before collapsing even harder. If there is a large Socialist coalition, and that coalition successfully combats the fascist powers, then some form of Socialism will likely replace it, and humanity can continue progressing instead of regressing.
Fascism. It’s fascism.
Economic and social collapse dislocates a lot of people. It dislocates people who think they shouldn’t be dislocated, because they played by the rules. They go to church, they had a job, they’re patriotic to their best understanding of the word.
Then, in their minds, something must have changed. It might be the immigrants, or the Jews, or the gays, or weirdly drag queens for some reason this time around. Then someone comes along who validates them as victims and promises a return to their historical glory days.
The last paroxysm is the election or ascendency of a far right populist who elevates that narrative. They promise to restore national pride and return to traditional values, and to return the nation to its roots which had made it strong and put them on top.
It’s happened multiple times around the world, and there are a lot of books and articles on how and why it happens.
Fascism is a characteristic of capitalist economies - it cannot exist without capitalism.
So no.
Yeas, in the sense that fascism is borne in capitalism, but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.
but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.
No, it doesn’t. Fascism poses no threat to capitalism and never has - that’s the whole reason capitalists eagerly fund fascists into power. Some fascists might dislike capitalism - such as Franco, for instance - but that doesn’t mean fascism can exist without it in any way, shape or form.
Oh you got me wrong, of course fascism is created to serve capitalists, but after the fascist power grab, they don’t need to have the theatre of freedom™ and markets anymore.
A square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.
Just say authoritarianism. Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history. Words have meaning and you don’t get to assign values to them because one helps your political motive better than the other.
Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history.
Are you putting the fascist regimes of Germany, Italy and Spain into one basket? Also the current regime in Russia?
Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history.
Blatantly false.
Fascism =/= Nazism =/= Francoism.
See:
a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.
Nazism isn’t fascism is quite the take. I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just a pedant who goes about being pedantic wrong.
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Reading the comments here reminds me of that Slavoj Žižek/ Fredric Jameson quote:
It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.
The Soviet Union had race tracks and casinos.
People are always going to want something for nothing.
Why it’s so hard to imagine life after capitalism…
With the way things are going, a return to out and out fascism.
It doesn’t fail. It succeeds horribly.
It also fails, though. It’s unsustainable, Capitalists sew the seeds of their own downfall. They just hope they enjoy the ride and pass the buck off to someone else.
Neo-feudalism, then the thinning of the herd once high levels of automation are achieved.
Population decreases are already happening in modernized, wealthy countries, no need to do anything there. The poorer ones will end up starving as the climate collapses, so that’s basically taken care of too. Population collapse isn’t always good, though, somebody has to buy the goods and services.
It already has failed. This is what comes after.
This is what comes after.
Jean memes I presume
Mass starvation.
Yes, accompanied by an economic structure far worse than capitalism, and a government style far worse than liberal democracy.
We got it good.
techno feudalism
Depends on the place. A cycle of failures is a feature of capitalism, it’s the opportunity for the next future failure to rise up and take charge. For great profit.
Lots of power struggles until one faction comes out on top (this includes subjugation and the equivalent of puppet states) or, less likely, those involved reach an agreement of coexistence.
Sometimes I think that humanity not breaking up into smaller groups after they passed a size of ~200 was a serious mistake.
Corporate feudalism was a fun concept I played with in high school, but now that I’m older, I think I was just approaching the concepts of a lot of modern cyberpunk settings portrayed.
“Fail” or “Succeed” is based on your perspective.
Capitalism won’t fail. It’s a great success to the rich who get richer by manipulating it.
Capitalism is a success, just not for us or anyone we know.
The 1% don’t give a shit about that. If they did it wouldn’t be an issue in the first place.
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