In the context of the conversation we’re currently having? Yeah it does matter, because the person I was replying to suggested that all Jews support what Israel is doing.

It matters insomuch as they are protesting/committing acts of civil disobedience or hounding politicians or not donating to AIPAC or whatever else they can do from across the ocean.

Because despite what you say, many of those Jews you are referring to are actually Zionists once cutting off the hand that feeds their homeland is threatened.

Many who have actual ties to the occupying state, or who still consider it a “homeland” despite what they’re seeing before their eyes, probably.

Non-Jews need to understand that unlike Christianity there is a level of identity politics steeped in nationalism, religion and culture are all so heavily intertwined it’s hard to break through.

That Religio-nationalism isn’t alien to us. Look at American Christian nationalism. Second Thought: The Growing Threat Of Christian Nationalism

Settler-colonialism isn’t foreign to us either: we created it. The Jewish state is a settler-colony created by and still supported by & deeply dependent on Global North colonizers. America itself is a settler-colony: we genocided the indigenous peoples and settled here.

They won’t just lose they will be decimated.

offtopic: “Decimated” means “reduced by 10%”, that is, multiplied by 0.9, that is, in the ancient Rome it meant “every 10th executed”. Seems closer to “just lose” than to “crushed in the polls”. While correcting people writing in their native language which isn’t mine is stupid, in this case the term is Roman, so.

I couldn’t find a worldwide survey but it doesn’t seem altogether unfair to conflate the jewish religion with the worldwide bastion of that religion any more than it would be wrong to conflate Catholics and the pope.

This analogy doesn’t work. You’re conflating the Jewish people with the Jewish religion. Catholicism is not an ethnicity, and many Jews aren’t religious, in fact quite a few are atheists.

Israel isn’t any kind of bastion, Judaism doesn’t have a central authority like the Pope and those smaller ones it has are not in Israel.

As Genocide Joe has been saying for decades, you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist. You just have to believe in the project of Atlanticist Jews settler-colonizing the Palestinian people’s land.

• The Nazis were a major contributor to the Zionist project
• Many antisemites are Zionists
• Many Christians are Zionists

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Another reason the imperialist US government is Zionist is that Israel is its unsinkable aircraft carrier in oil-rich Western Asia. As Biden has been saying for decades, “were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region.”

because that might make us nazis in the eyes of morons and their propagandists.

You mean the Israeli state?

Im starting to think that what a lot of people learned from the holocaust

That always happens when you try to teach a crowd a moral lesson.

But, to be frank, there were institutional things learned too, culminating in the UN being created. Too bad it wasn’t reformed significantly after decolonization happened, and for the Cold War, and as a result by now it’s completely irrelevant. Its rules are being used to justify things opposite to stated when those rules were written.

The many faces of totalitarianism; we need to discuss this better, or have representatives who can at very least acknowledge that. By the way, none of these people seem to have at hearth the peace of the region. Until than, our hands are tied.

I think we can move past this while fighting actual antisemitism, which may be on the rise for all I know.

Acnshually, jews

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