• assembly@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    That is true but at the same time, a line has to be drawn somewhere. If we just let Russia win because they have nukes, there is nothing to stop them from invading and absorbing other neighbors. We can’t let the threat of nukes keep us from doing anything and allowing for Russia and China to just invade anywhere they want.

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      We can’t let the threat of nukes keep us from doing anything and allowing for Russia and China to just invade anywhere they want.

      I’m sorry, but yes-we-fucking-can.

      Jesus, people here are so fucking blood thirsty that they’re willing to entertain nuclear-fucking-holocaust just to ‘draw a line in the sand’

      Friendly reminder that the US has already been ‘invading anywhere they want’ - I sure am glad the baddies aren’t as eager as the good guys are to glass half the planet.

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        No one here is bloodthirsty other than the country that invaded Ukraine and now wants to wipe out its people. We are just supposed to sit back and let it happen and let the Russians just keep picking random countries to destroy? No one is advocating for use of weapons of mass destruction but they are advocating for the defense of an independent country attempting to defend itself.

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          The existence of nukes takes direct military intervention off the table, full stop. Diplomacy is the only way unless a nuclear exchange is acceptable to you.

          The US is so privileged that they don’t realize that “just sit back and let it happen” is how the rest of the world has had to deal with them for the last 80 years, and now it’s unconscionable to think they have to ‘let it happen’ with a foreign adversary themselves

          I think the world would be better if every country had nukes and countries like Russia, Israel, and the US couldn’t simply steamroll every other country standing in their way.

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            You’re making too much sense for their patriotic propaganda riddled brains. During the cold war, the media made the population fear the enemy and it’s nukes. Nowadays, they instead turned it into making a complete joke of Russia , even making fun of their nukes. So, no wonder the US population think it’s ok to start a war with them despite the thousands of nukes at their disposal. They think it’ll be as easy as invading yet another poor middle eastern country.

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        The alternative to this “line in the sand” is the eventual destruction of all things beautiful and good at the hands of the world’s most evil people.

        Stop being naive.

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          The alternative to this “line in the sand” is the eventual destruction of all things beautiful and good at the hands of the world’s most evil people.

          Lmao who’s being naive?

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        What an idiotic take on this. Yes we can let China and Russia take what they want? Tell me you’re a tabkiensithout telling me you’re one.

        What country do you live in, and how ok would you be with being annexed into Russia.

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          The global majority prefers multipolarity than the US hegemony, the US has spent decades destabilizing our countries while China has developed win-win respectful relationships.

          The US has military bases in countries that you do not know they exist, spends more in war than the redt of the world combined and has killed exponentially more people than anyone else.

          Here is how the good ol’ US of A sees our countries: https://youtu.be/fCZLWWD1okg?si=cFZPxH-4U-GkqOF2, just a “region” filled with “rare earth minerals”.

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          It’s not a matter of being ok with another country abusing their neighbors, nor is it about ‘letting them do what they want’, it’s about acknowledging the mutually assured destruction established during the cold war and having to reckon with the fact that there are other nations with the ability to end civilization that have other ambitions than you.

          Leftists get mocked a lot about their pie-in-the-sky economic goals, but at least they have an intimate understanding of international conflict and the reality of oppositional superpowers. Unlike sheltered american adolescents who’ve never left their country for more than a week and have been assured their entire life that the US is the most powerful and moral nation on earth.

          And that’s to say nothing about the fact that america is the antagonist to most other nations on the planet.

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      No earth is better ? Got it! Let the great reset begins!

      We haven’t even colonized a single other planet and we depleted earth ressources pretty bad,so if it’s a reset, it will be a complete hard reset that bricks earth save file forever. No more technological evolution for any future inhabitants ! The great filter might actually be the answer to the Fermi paradox after all.

      We can’t let the threat of nukes keep us from doing anything and allowing for Russia and China to just invade anywhere they want.

      This part gave me a nervous laugh. ‘Only us are allowed to invade anywhere we want, and if anyone else does it we’re ready to hard reset earth because we want the exclusivity rights!’

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        Cope and seethe. Ukraine deserves to keep its independence and hopefully America continued to support it. Russia isn’t going to use their nukes and every time they threaten it, fewer and fewer people get scared each time. Also American isn’t going to go to war with Russia, they’re just going to keep sending mothballed armour that destroys the Russian stuff.

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          Get off your high horses. I know Ukraine is a very sensitive subject for some but I didn’t mention anything about it. We’re fucking talking about not escalating it into nuclear war here. You know Ukraine, and no other country for that matter, would exists after a nuclear holocaust,right ?

          Lastly, I am against colonization and invasion of any kind.

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              Given that Ukraine is losing so obviously that even western media admits it now, it’s pretty clear that you’re the one doing all the coping and seething here.

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              This post is about Ukraine mate.

              And the comments I was answering to was talking about nato/us/eu starting a war with Russia. You should be less oversensitive.

              Second, there will be no nuclear war escalation so calm down.

              Yep, The rest of the world would greatly appreciate it.

              Cope and seethe.

              I geuss you didn’t read the last part of my comment then.