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        but only the third (?) time that US citizens were subject to aerial bombardment … so, um … there’s that?

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          I suggest looking up what the Pinkertons were about as well. The US had a nasty history when it comes to the poor and people of color who get “uppity”.

          They still exist to this day, and do the same business. There more recent thing was being hired by Wizards of the Coast to intimidate someone who received MTG cards before official release date.

          This was a big stink on the R site; there is no reason to maintain that company name except to capitalize on its horrifying reputation.

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            I know very well what the Pinkertons did back then — and are still doing as part of various union-buster merc groups hired by Amazon, Starbucks, etc. (the WotC thing is a blip that happened to ruffle geek feathers, so it bubbled up over there), but the simple fact that the general public doesn’t (want to?) connect the dots between alt-right, cop gangs, and mercs like the Pinkertons is only one reason that this nation will continue to be slavery based, no matter the cosmetic flourish every 4+ years. 🤌🏽

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              Pinkertons today is a brand name purchased by a Swedish security firm. It has nothing to do with the previous Pinkertons and (fellow) D&D nerds circlejerking that the guys from Red Dead Redemption had come to (literally ask to) retrieve stolen property without involving the law was very embarrassing.

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                If it had nothing to do with the name, they would have dropped the name. The reputation behind the name is the point. Plenty of people knew who the pinkertons were before Rockstar released grand theft cowboy.

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                  Just so we’re clear, your argument is that this Swedish firm have the same name as 19th century American “mercs” therefore modern day slavery is real?

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                    no, it’s that the same power structures have persisted and are still doing the same shit under a different mantle, even if it’s technically a Swedish company now (hit those people from Blair Mountain are long since retired, yet the organization is still doing similar things).

                    PS: “literally ask to” is a funny way of saying intimidate, the reason they refused to involve proper authorities was that legally speaking they had no case

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        We were taught about the Trail of Tears when I was a kid. Is it no longer taught? Wait, I got transferred to a private school in fifth grade. That might be where it came up.

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              No one but you is even arguing that, and you’re dangerously close to some shit heel whataboutism. Mind your step.

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                    Yeah, what of it? In Waco they thought the compound might be stockpiling illegal weapons, which turned out to be true when 4 ATF were gunned down. Then the FBI tried to negotiate for 51 days. That’s way better response than what happened in Philly.

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                    And you would rather the people in charge of Waco were in charge of the police?

                    Yes there were huge problems with the police response, pooly trained and gung-ho who clearly made it worse but also it was a difficult situation and it’s hard to see it resolved by anyone without issue.