Socialism and what the world ‘uses’ as communism are very different. I mean China - Cuba are considered communist, but I’ve personally been to Cuba, and that’s not what Marx was speaking of. China, well you can just Google it.
Finland is rad as fuck. The Finns I’ve met 100% could sleep on my couch any day. Plus your hacking scene is outrageous. I in fact have one of my VPSs in Finland. So I’m not knocking you guys, and even if the text book definitions perfectly matched up, real world usage differs.
If we could turn America into a Social Democracy I would wet my pants. I never defended capitalism btw, you tried to put an awful lot of words in my mouth, maybe you’re the 1st Fin I don’t like.
I’m not saying you’re necessarily defending it even if I think you’re wrongly equating capitalism and market economy.
I just feel that for the most part, basically the “Red Scare” made people think that the only thing that’s an alternative to capitalism is full blown communism, which implies that all market economies are capitalist, which they aren’t.
I’m not blaming you — I’m blaming some of the implications of the language you’ve used. There is a difference.
Yeah, there’s a lot of good things about Finland when comparing internationally, but I can tell you, there are some rather bad things as well. While “first amendment auditors” in the US are sometimes annoying as fuck, we honestly need a little bit of that type of spirit here. We’ve got authoritarian issues. Honestly.
I’d just like to live somewhere else for a while, maybe that might give me a newfound respect to licking some boots or something, as currently respecting the Finnish police- and justice system in general is a very nauseating idea indeed.
My point is that adopting socialism would make the poor richer and the megarich poorer, and if it’s just socialism, a “market socialism”, not a “communism”, if you will, then nothing would really change for most of the people. Well, nothing would change to be more negative at least. The megawealthy would still be rich, but they wouldn’t be as disgustingly rich as now. Homelessness or hunger wouldn’t exist. But still a lot of people basically consider “socialism” to be a curse-word?
Some Tankies have told me more than once that Cuba and China are on the path to communism and the fact that they get more capitalist every day is proof of that somehow.
Socialism and what the world ‘uses’ as communism are very different. I mean China - Cuba are considered communist, but I’ve personally been to Cuba, and that’s not what Marx was speaking of. China, well you can just Google it.
Finland is rad as fuck. The Finns I’ve met 100% could sleep on my couch any day. Plus your hacking scene is outrageous. I in fact have one of my VPSs in Finland. So I’m not knocking you guys, and even if the text book definitions perfectly matched up, real world usage differs.
If we could turn America into a Social Democracy I would wet my pants. I never defended capitalism btw, you tried to put an awful lot of words in my mouth, maybe you’re the 1st Fin I don’t like.
Anyways have a lovely weekend.
I’m not saying you’re necessarily defending it even if I think you’re wrongly equating capitalism and market economy.
I just feel that for the most part, basically the “Red Scare” made people think that the only thing that’s an alternative to capitalism is full blown communism, which implies that all market economies are capitalist, which they aren’t.
I’m not blaming you — I’m blaming some of the implications of the language you’ve used. There is a difference.
Yeah, there’s a lot of good things about Finland when comparing internationally, but I can tell you, there are some rather bad things as well. While “first amendment auditors” in the US are sometimes annoying as fuck, we honestly need a little bit of that type of spirit here. We’ve got authoritarian issues. Honestly.
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/25412-hs-most-finns-would-accept-human-rights-violations-to-enforce-border-act.html
https://unric.org/en/finland-must-address-legacy-of-human-rights-violations-against-sami-people-says-un-expert/
https://harvardpolitics.com/nordic-racism/
I’d just like to live somewhere else for a while, maybe that might give me a newfound respect to licking some boots or something, as currently respecting the Finnish police- and justice system in general is a very nauseating idea indeed.
My point is that adopting socialism would make the poor richer and the megarich poorer, and if it’s just socialism, a “market socialism”, not a “communism”, if you will, then nothing would really change for most of the people. Well, nothing would change to be more negative at least. The megawealthy would still be rich, but they wouldn’t be as disgustingly rich as now. Homelessness or hunger wouldn’t exist. But still a lot of people basically consider “socialism” to be a curse-word?
Some Tankies have told me more than once that Cuba and China are on the path to communism and the fact that they get more capitalist every day is proof of that somehow.