• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I’ve been getting down voted for saying it for a year…

    But yeah, trump doesn’t stand a fucking chance now. Also, this is probably the only way to get people excited about Kamala.

    2028 better be a real primary or we just kicked the can down the road.

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      5 months ago

      You know it will probably be either the Harris reelection effort, or no election due to complications from Trumpitis

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          5 months ago

          Damn, I just found out Kamala is almost 60…

          I don’t know why I thought Biden would have picked someone young enough to be president after him.

          Should have gotten one of the “kids” in their 40s.

          We need to stop running elderly people, if Biden had done two and she did two after, she’d be in her 70s too

          We’re stuck in this situation where we demand “experience” but the people holding the spots that count for “experience” are decades past retirement age.

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            5 months ago

            Even if she would serve two terms in a row, she would still only be 67 by the time shes finished, so thats still way younger than what Trump or Biden have been during their terms.

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              5 months ago

              Right.

              But apparently Biden always intended to run twice, making her 71 at the end of her second term…

              But 67 is still too old for lots of people. And above everything thing else the presidency is a popularity contest.

              Younger candidates like Obama and Bill get more votes, which carries down ballot races, and let’s us get the House and Senate so the president can get shit done.

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                  5 months ago

                  . In your example Biden would have served as president while 85. 71 is a problem in this logic how?

                  Simple, my standards don’t get lowered everytime someone doesn’t meet them.

                  We could have an 150 year old president and I’d still say 71 is a problem. Even if I voted for the 150 year old.

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            5 months ago

            Almost 60 is fine. She’s still got the majority of her mental faculties that she had at her peak. Low chance of her just randomly kicking over at any given time unlike the two candidates we had in this election until yesterday.

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              5 months ago

              Almost 60 is fine.

              It is.

              But if Biden did a second term, she’d be 64.

              And 72 at the end of her two terms.

              Which is why I’m saying Biden should have picked a you Obama type who’s a decade younger for VP.

              Instead of someone who would be in their 70s if everything went to plan.

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        Gotta keep the pressure up.

        Make her promise to an open and fair 2028 primary before the 2024 election.

        None of this wishwashy shit where everyone close to Biden promise it’s a one turn thing, but the candidate doesn’t understand how shitty of a candidate they are.

        Kamala’s gonna win because she’s not trump. Not because she’s what Dem voters want.

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      5 months ago

      Harris still has a lot of animosity towards her from her time as a prosecutor, but I’m thinking she’s at least a better candidate than biden. The expected republican attacks of “she’s black” and “she’s a woman” probably won’t sway anyone as much as “Joe Biden personally shoots Palestinian kids.”

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        She’ll be fine.

        Moderates like her already, and as someone who’s had to vote Hillary and Joe in the last two elections…

        It’s easier for progressives to hold their nose when they have the benefit of the doubt about how bad the candidate is.

        We’re fucking fighting fascism bro, her being a DA might even be a good thing if she’s actually down to fight fascists. Don’t forget before McCarthyism we had capitalists allying with communists to fight fascism.

        Hell, if she pulls a “I know the system, I know it needs fixed, and I look forward to being president so it can be fixed” would guarantee she’s the next prez.

        It doesn’t take much, we’rre just coming off the two worst Dem candidates in modern history, and still got a trump hangover from his term. So Kamala would have to really fuck shit up to lose.

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        Ughhh I am NOT looking forward to the racist pieces of shit who will go on and on now about “SEE! Democrats won’t even let you pick a candidate, they have to shove their DEI applicant down our throats!”

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          That aspect is going to be ugly, but I don’t worry that it will affect the results too much. The hardcore racist sexist folk never voted Dem anyway.

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            Yup. If that’s the worst they got, she’s in a pretty good place. Not like we haven’t heard it all before.

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      I could see how nominating Harris this way could run people the wrong way, and both she and the DNC should vow to run a full and fair primary for the 2028 Presidential Elections. As in, treating Harris as if that would be the end of her second term (but still allowing her to run for nomination).