• bigbrowncommie69 [any]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    Hard times create a strong and organised proletariat

    The proletariat create good times

    Good times create weak liberals

    Weak liberals create hard times

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      I mean what they are actually saying is that if they define the current times as hard, the people living right now are at the very least in the process of becoming hard themselves. So not only do they admit they must have been the ones who created these times, thus they are weak men, they also admit that we must be the strong men.

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        3 months ago

        I vaguely remember someone here had an anecdote of responding with “Oh, so the people from the hard times of 1918 Russia were strong men?” and got left on read. (it is a silly method of historical analysis, but if it at least shuts that sort of person up)

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    Boomers didn’t work hard. Their entire life was a participation trophy provided to them for cheap via exploited third world labor.

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    3 months ago

    Tbh, while I think this is a funny meme that uses a good format, I’m not a fan of the generational rhetoric in either direction. I will focus on the US because that seems to be where a lot of the generational rhetoric is centered on: From what I can find on dates, Fred Hampton would be considered boomer age range, if he was still alive today. Assata Shakur, still living, is another. I’m sure one can find many more who fought for better and got imprisoned or murdered by the state, or are still actively free and fighting even if they don’t have a lot of visibility.

    The best way to counter generational rhetoric, in my view, is not to flip it back on the ones who say millennials/z/alpha/etc. are bad, but to counter the whole premise of saying that one generation is causing problems and another isn’t. We know that’s not true. It’s a minority of people orchestrating most of the damage, across generations. That’s not to say there isn’t any damage being done by people beyond that range, but, for example, it’s not some protesters showing up for Palestine or some dentist who barely reads the news who is bombing kids in Palestine, it’s the US federal government and military apparatus in partnership with israel. Some people are more complicit than they should be, but the ones actually organizing the terror and pulling the trigger are not the majority.

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    Like the Western European diaspora who create dependency on authoritarian colonial free riding, debt trapping by Bretton Woods institutions, puppet governments by Pax Americana, Indian residential fake school slave camps that secretly continued after 1997, and the inheritance thief of Indigenous children from the fake cultural assimilation projects that force the elites of Western European diaspora to replace their own race with immigrants of non-European origin just to survive from their wasteful lifestyle and poor management?