Please don’t take this question the wrong way, I am just trying to learn and get the opinions of more people on this subject. I find it interesting.
The stages of development are just how our history has unfolded, they’re not prescriptive. A different trajectory is hypothetically possible.
It makes sense to me that some form of forced labor would be necessary since it is the simplest way to organize labor. But yeah, I suppose different ways to organize labor could have formed instead, although it seems unlikely to me.
The Inca empire didn’t have slavery, but they conquered and developed large amounts of territory even without literacy. They just exchanged rations of necessities for a set amount of labour per year. People had their needs met and Infrastructure Week went smoothly.
that’s very interesting, now I want to learn more about The Inca empire
Slavery is a very old method of production that had a resurgence a few centuries ago.
It’s more of a regressive economic movement than a new development, then and now.
It was not inevitable; the ruling class exploited socioeconomic conditions in Africa and exported enslaved laborers to colonies in the Americas accordingly.
I was referring to slavery as a necessary step during antiquity only, more recent slavery I don’t believe to have been inevitable at all.
The “terrible swift sword” that forced hunter-gatherers into the wheat fields was maybe necessary for economy of scale early agriculture, yeah.
I can see the argument, but the amount of free labor it takes to maintain a slave system is so high (especially when there isn’t much in the way of technology) that significant slavery at the dawn of agriculture seems unlikely. Seems like that’s something you could only start to pull off with a decent sized city state’s worth of overseer labor, and at that point you’ve already had agriculture for a while.
since it is the simplest way to organize labor
Is it though? Wouldn’t it be easier to organise labour if the people you’re organising are cooperative?
maybe it isn’t, the more questions I ask the more I realize that I don’t actually know very much about this.
In a manner of speaking slavery is very simple if you’re heavily armed and surrounded by people who do not want to do what you want to.
The advent of class society brought slavery. Class society appeared when humans were able to produce more than they consumed. This happened through several advances such as agriculture, clay pots (which allowed for storing grain and water for later consumption), and of course tools. From the moment we shaped a stone into an arrow tip we have been performing socially necessary labor.
As people produced items of consumption, this freed up time for other people in the clan/tribe/village to do other things. One very important task that appeared and has been with us since then is accounting. Of course back in these days it wasn’t done with tables and accounts, but the principle was the same. There is a stockpile of goods, and it was someone’s job to know what was in that stockpile. Later it also became their job to decide how that stockpile would be assigned.
This is likely how class society arose; over time, this accounting strata became dominant and exploitative. They controlled the output of production and could easily control the means of productions themselves after that. You need some grain? Well, make a spear first. You need a spear? Get me some grain. Regardless of how it actually played out, they could easily appropriate the surplus for themselves.
Slavery was the first dominant mode of production because it’s nakedly exploitative. It can’t get any more exploitative than that: you literally own someone as property, and put them to work to produce more than they consume, but everything they produce belongs to you. They don’t receive any of their surplus value back, they don’t even receive any value beyond the bare minimum to survive!
^ There is a wrench in this theory because not all populations went from nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyle to settled agriculture. Some (and this is attested to in China, though they were not the Chinese but were incorporated into it) moved back and forth as climate changed and settled over millennia. I don’t know their mode of production though. Note also that nomadic doesn’t mean they were hunter-gatherers-- they herded horses, for example, and you can have slaves for this.
While people did produce a surplus, this amounted to almost nothing. Yields were very low. Therefore it was difficult to provide food and other items to slaves, while still creating a surplus with their labor. And if they didn’t create a surplus, then there was no need for slaves. Does that make sense? If output < 1, then you wouldn’t keep slaves around. If output ~= 1.2, then slaves became interesting so you could appropriate that 0.2 for yourself. But with a positive factor of barely 0.2, you couldn’t really give them 0.1 for themselves and keep 0.1 for yourself. They also didn’t produce the same output all days of the year. In winter, a slave’s production might equal 0.9. So what do you do then? You reduce their rations so that they still produce an even 1 in winter, at the detriment of their well-being. That’s barely anything and again slaves become less interesting. When output becomes > 4, 5 or 6, then a proletariat is materially possible (possible but not guaranteed, but that’s not the topic here).
Why did slavery last so long? Because for most of human history the value output of labor was barely above 1. And history moves dialectically, not prescriptively. People didn’t say “well it’s the year 1200 now so I guess it’s time to move into serfdom”. Class struggles happened, revolutions happened. Though in Europe it seems to me this change was very gradual; the earliest form of serfdom was slavery all but in name. Lords were in fact previously slave owners as I understand it, sometimes both at once. The very first form of tax payment from the serf was the corvée, in which the serf worked 4 days of the week on his own land, and the other 2 days on his lord’s land, using his own tools. The textbook of political economy of the USSR talks about this but would you believe that even though it’s only chapter 3 I’m not there yet. I can think of some advantages for nobles having serfs instead of slaves though; as they are tied to the land they are less likely to run away, since they own some meager possessions. They can also be returned to their lord more easily if trying to escape. There is also a problem with slavery in that the more slaves you have, the more police you need. At some point you’re gonna have more slaves than you have police and this is a problem the Roman Empire ran into.
At least this is how I believe it played out.
I’ve read a bit about the transition to serfdom post-Rome and this is generally correct, and is certainly the correct way to think about it.
There are some additional concerns when it comes to large scale slave society like Rome was, among other things includes stuff like geographic and technological limitations (roads, ocean, ships, animal and human muscle power), biological limitations (slaves die under horrific conditions). Basically a web of things that long term suggest an expanding slave society (or slavery itself) is unsustainable, and that the transition to serfdom is based in the eventual material need of the ruling class to transform labor from slaves to serfs as slave influx becomes less, and thus they become more expensive.
Then there are things like debt that polarize economies and change human relations, and steer economic policy to serfdom as well. Geography can influence the policy towards emerging peasantry, too - like if there is too much free land then you’d want your peasants to bound to your land. And the opposite: if there isn’t free land then your peasants can have more rights and mobility.
Just thought I’d add these additional concerns to a really good post.
Do you have anything to read about Chinese “feudalism” or whatever Marx called the Asiatic MOP? It’s so hard to find anything and I basically know nothing at all about what is going on at that point in time/space. My hunch is that geography is really really important.
There is a book called An Outline History Of China which is available in english and might talk about this topic, I haven’t read it myself but it seems to take a very Marxist approach to history. We also have a history of China page on prolewiki which is mostly based on a series of lectures Ken Hammond of PSL gave back in 2004. It’s a very materialist reading of history but not super Marxist, but that’s where I heard about the people that switched between settled and nomadic back and forth, though he only mentions it as an anecdote.
Thanks comrade! Will investigate that book if I can find it. I was thinking of checking out a book by a Chinese-Australian author, I remember Jeffrey Sachs interviewed her, called Chinese statecraft. I think there is some geographic/material analysis about ancient China but it’s more geared towards modern times. Could be a bit socdem as well but I found Sachs interview with the author very good.
amazing answer, thank you
Slavery was contingent on everything before slavery creating the conditions for slavery. Once the conditions were as they were, then slavery became logically necessary, so the question then becomes, were the conditions that gave rise to slavery necessary…
Some great answers so far. Just wanted to add a response that attends to something you might hear from liberals.
Liberals often, idealistically, have a rosy picture of capitalism and a somewhat quaint and dreamy view of feudalism and whatever Rome and Greece were. When you point out a problem like slavery, which existed in all those periods, they say something like, ‘well that was unfortunate, yes, but it didn’t need to happen; capitalism can exist without it.’ This can be summarised as a claim that slavery wasn’t or isn’t historically necessary.
If that’s where your question is coming from (you might have heard something like that argument), the answer is that slavery was essential. It can’t just be deleted from the historical records. We know that it happened, that it was one part of the development of Rome, feudalism, and capitalism. Maybe in an alternative universe there was a path towards the conditions of today absent all the slavery. But that’s not the history we’re dealing with.
In this way, we can reject the liberal conception of a sanitary capitalism that is not stained by a history of slavery.
The fundamental problem with your question is the perception that there are these prescribed stages of development and each stage is an advancement on the previous.
Instead, the indigenous peoples in the world were just as “advanced” as the colonizers who slaughtered and enslaved them. They were not on different stages of a tech tree like in a game, they just developed different societies.
So of course slavery was not necessary because there is no such thing as necessary advancement. Even if you argue that advancements in medicine requires more modern modes of production, places like Cuba or the Soviet Union skipped or sped through or skirted around or limitidly used Capitalism and still developed incredible health programs. So then capitalism isn’t even necessary for technological advancement in that way, let alone slavery.
Adding to what others have said in their great answers, this is an impossible question to truly answer. Was it “necessary”? Well, it happened, need is hard to extrapolate from that. Have there been any societies that arose without any trace of slavery and survived to the modern day intact? Possibly. But unfortunately there are still millions of slaves worldwide which I am certain allows for a lot of surplus value siphoning that props up many civilizations.
I’d recommend reading Graeber. Stagism is a useful reduction for educational purposes, but beyond that it’s an antiquated understanding of human social development. In abstract I would say that nothing is strictly necessary, there’s an infinite spectrum of ways to be.
Diamat is a good model for understanding social change, it just has to engage with real complexities.
I don’t think so, one could argue that slaves freed up time for the masters to do something of a higher level but lets be real the masters were mostly idle.
