Voters in Arizona and Massachusetts are set to decide whether employers should be able to continue to pay tipped workers such as servers and bartenders a lower minimum wage than non-tipped workers.

Mel Nichols, a 37-year-old bartender in Phoenix, Arizona, takes home anywhere from $30 to $50 an hour with tips included. But the uncertainty of how much she’s going to make on a daily basis is a constant source of stress.

“For every good day, there’s three bad days,” said Nichols, who has been in the service industry since she was a teenager. “You have no security when it comes to knowing how much you’re going to make.”

The amount tipped workers make varies by state. Fourteen states pay the federal minimum, or just above $2 an hour for tipped workers and $7 an hour for non-tipped workers.

  • Zier@fedia.io
    541·
    2 months ago

    No one should ever have to work for tips. A living wage should be minimum for all workers, no exceptions. If you get tipped beyond that, great, otherwise, fuck off employers exploiting people.

    • Zier@fedia.io
      21·
      2 months ago

      Just to clarify, since people are confused. No one should ever have to live off sub standard wages and hope to hell they make enough tips to survive. This is an exhausting daily hustle that detracts from your quality of life. A livable minimum wage, enforced in all states and industries for every employee, regardless of age, should exist, no exceptions. $20/hr would be a good start. And if people also earned tip money, that went directly to that employee, no sharing with the employer or other employees, that would be fine. Employers need to pay employees proper wages, not your customers.

    • iopq@lemmy.world
      355·
      2 months ago

      You’d rather the person in question make $20 an hour all the time instead of $30-$50?

      Because that’s what would happen

      • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
        501·
        2 months ago

        This is the bullshit propaganda restaurant owners spread, and unfortunately a lot of tipped workers buy it.

        If you’re making $30-50 an hour, why would you stay at the job if they offered you $20? Your job is a skill, and the better you are, the more it is worth to your employer. Employees will go where their skills are appropriately compensated. Setting the minimum ensures that all workers can support themselves, and that will force all wages higher.

        • iopq@lemmy.world
          13·
          2 months ago

          So labor is worth market value in the labor market?

          I agree, then there’s no need to change minimum wages for tipped employees

          • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
            4·
            2 months ago

            No, because labor rates are an unbalanced equation. Without a regulated minimum, employers will take advantage of the excess of laborers. The inherent threat of the violence of poverty will always create more supply than demand, because there is always someone willing to work for less.

            But if your employer already values your skills at a certain rate, there’s no reason to accept a pay cut for the same work. If you’re great at your job, you’ll likely still earn tips, but without the risk of going unpayed for your labor.

            • iopq@lemmy.world
              12·
              2 months ago

              That only applies during high unemployment, right now there isn’t even 4%, really nobody to exploit. Fast food places in California are paying $20/hr starting, much higher than the local $15/hr minimum wage in the cities

      • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
        32·
        2 months ago

        Just abolish tipping. Everyone hates it except the restaurant owner. Why are we pandering to the owners when the customers and the staff vastly outnumber them?

        • TheRealKuni@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Actually a lot of servers and bartenders get really annoyed by the prospect of abolishing tipping. They can make really good money from tips.

          I agree it’s a terrible system but you get a lot of push-back from workers if you try to change it.

        • iopq@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 months ago

          I’m fine with this, I’ve been in countries where there’s no tipping and their service is just as good

      • RagingRobot@lemmy.world
        15·
        2 months ago

        No they would make the $20 plus the tips instead of $3 plus the tip so if they made $30 in an hour and only $3 was from their hourly rate that would mean with the new rate they would be making $47.

        Why would you assume people would stop tipping? As a consumer I would have no idea their hourly pay rate changed so why would I change my tip? Also tips are based on the service provided not the difference between what they are paid and a living wage that’s not my problem as a consumer.