Man, that might happen for a high profile family/person. For average people in many places in the US, they’ll be lucky if the police even pay out to cover damages to property, nevermind anything else.
Edit: and yes, I know this is just a green text and not a real story.
And you don’t seem to take into consideration how rarely people sue. A lot of open and shut cases aren’t pursued because the public doesn’t know they can.
Yeah, 10 million might be a stretch. But the city I used to work in would immediately settle for 250k for something like that. Lawyers are expensive, and losing is more expensive
10M was a stretch for sure, but a family in Jolliet recently got 2.9M USD for the police raiding the wrong house and quite a while back Dr. Lawrence Crosby got 1.25M USD for the police arresting him for the theft of his own car based on an anonymous tip.
Those are accidents vs the op which was not an accident. It was legit the right place and searching for the right thing. They had some evidence to do the search legally. So your comment and this hypothetical aren’t quite the same.
The judge and jury don’t know about the accident. The judge and jury will see that police raided an older couple’s house based on at most a stock photo, an anonymous tinder account, a photo of school laboratory from an unknown source (anon’s not even a real chemist), and an IP address which can be spoofed.
In fact, they don’t even know anon is involved at all.
And anywhere outside the US, home searches are nearly always legal since they must be signed by a judge. And judges rarely rule against their own.
Over here in Germany, where the inviolability of the home is in the constitution, the suspicion of any crime suffices for getting your home searched. This includes filesharing, spraying graffiti or insulting someone on the internet by calling them a dick. Plus, any resulting damages are only paid if you are found not guilty.
That’s wild that insults are a crime there, I never knew that. Quite funny back and forth, though. I laughed at how the writing got more and more chaotic haha
As for your other comment, the US also requires a judge to sign off on a warrant for raiding/searching someone’s home. Some judges are more strict about it than others, and the more high profile you are, the more the judges tend to be stricter with approving them.
However, if you’re in a poorer area and you’re not rich, it’s not unheard of for home raids to occur quite liberally. Hell, one of my old coworkers got raided a few years ago due to the police going to the wrong address (the intended house was across the street). And no, the police didn’t give shit for compensation and his family couldn’t afford to take it to court. He also just didn’t want to deal with potential repercussions of the police harassing him afterwards since he’s an immigrant (here legally, but yeah, lots of people here don’t care about that…).
Man, that might happen for a high profile family/person. For average people in many places in the US, they’ll be lucky if the police even pay out to cover damages to property, nevermind anything else.
Edit: and yes, I know this is just a green text and not a real story.
They’ll be lucky if the police don’t kill them in the raid.
Very easy to tell whether they will get killed during the raid, simply follow the Standard Police Academy Appropriate Force chart:
There are tons of examples counter to your claim.
A lot of the settlements probably don’t even get reported on at the request of the city in question.
While true, your hypothesis doesn’t take into consideration how often the police fuck up.
And you don’t seem to take into consideration how rarely people sue. A lot of open and shut cases aren’t pursued because the public doesn’t know they can.
Yeah, 10 million might be a stretch. But the city I used to work in would immediately settle for 250k for something like that. Lawyers are expensive, and losing is more expensive
10M was a stretch for sure, but a family in Jolliet recently got 2.9M USD for the police raiding the wrong house and quite a while back Dr. Lawrence Crosby got 1.25M USD for the police arresting him for the theft of his own car based on an anonymous tip.
Those are accidents vs the op which was not an accident. It was legit the right place and searching for the right thing. They had some evidence to do the search legally. So your comment and this hypothetical aren’t quite the same.
The judge and jury don’t know about the accident. The judge and jury will see that police raided an older couple’s house based on at most a stock photo, an anonymous tinder account, a photo of school laboratory from an unknown source (anon’s not even a real chemist), and an IP address which can be spoofed.
In fact, they don’t even know anon is involved at all.
And anywhere outside the US, home searches are nearly always legal since they must be signed by a judge. And judges rarely rule against their own.
Over here in Germany, where the inviolability of the home is in the constitution, the suspicion of any crime suffices for getting your home searched. This includes filesharing, spraying graffiti or insulting someone on the internet by calling them a dick. Plus, any resulting damages are only paid if you are found not guilty.
calling someone a dick is a crime??
https://archive.is/RsyNC [unpaywalled Washington Post link]
Some reactions:
The text above reads: “Special Police Unit Wall and Color”
The text below: “Andy, you are such 1 dick.”
Later the police arrived:
But again:
And the cops came back:
But finally:
By the way, the case was finally dropped. Only because the outrage made them not pursue it though. Courts would have likely ruled this was an insult.
That’s wild that insults are a crime there, I never knew that. Quite funny back and forth, though. I laughed at how the writing got more and more chaotic haha
As for your other comment, the US also requires a judge to sign off on a warrant for raiding/searching someone’s home. Some judges are more strict about it than others, and the more high profile you are, the more the judges tend to be stricter with approving them.
However, if you’re in a poorer area and you’re not rich, it’s not unheard of for home raids to occur quite liberally. Hell, one of my old coworkers got raided a few years ago due to the police going to the wrong address (the intended house was across the street). And no, the police didn’t give shit for compensation and his family couldn’t afford to take it to court. He also just didn’t want to deal with potential repercussions of the police harassing him afterwards since he’s an immigrant (here legally, but yeah, lots of people here don’t care about that…).