!endlesswar@lemmy.ca

Seems to be purely to post misinformation with repeated claims that Russia is innocent and the US caused the Ukraine situation, that they’re stopping Ukraine from agreeing to Russia’s super amazing peacedeals, etc.

This is the sort of garbage one would expect to find on ML or Hex, is CA intended to be the same low quality instance?

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    22 days ago

    If the litmus is not having a Nazi bar, I don’t think that’ll ever happen unless we gate community creation. On the wider fediverse, it’ll never happen. I think it’ll always be about how unpopular it is and we should use that as the litmus. The scaleable approach is people’s votes and personally this is why I’m on Lemmy.

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      22 days ago

      So you suggest never trying to do anything, because you can’t be sure it will 100% be gone forever?

      Think of it like a weed, when you see one you pull it out and move on with your day. Gardens require constant tending to.

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        22 days ago

        I’m not suggesting that. I’m suggesting that we’re already doing something and it seems effective. It seems to me the democratic process we have is already pulling the weed out.

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          22 days ago

          I won’t be mad if the admins delete that community, but it seems we’re already controlling how far it gets. If I saw high upvote rates which makes the misinfo spread wide, then I’d say we’re not doing a good enough job through the standard process and perhaps an additional action is needed.

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        22 days ago

        Deleting a community is worse than Russia invading Ukraine?

        Huh good to know.

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          22 days ago

          If we examine the two possible actions: (1) banning the community, and (2) not banning the community. Then we can see that neither (1) nor (2) have influence on Russia invading Ukraine. That has already happened and is happening.

          Both actions, (1) and (2), are not worse than the invasion.

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            22 days ago

            Russian propaganda has an impact on it.

            Deliberately allowing yourself to be a hub to spread it is ridiculous.

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              21 days ago

              Russian propaganda has an impact on it.

              I totally agree.

              Deliberately allowing yourself to be a hub to spread it is ridiculous.

              I think this argument is our main point of disagreement. In my opinion, censorship is a bad way to address misinformation. It creates parallel groups of thinking, each, from their point of view, growing more confident that they know all.