Toxic masculinity is a global phenomenon, but nowhere is it more virulent than in this hypermodern, connected society. What can other countries learn from this ‘ground zero’ of misogyny?
Toxic masculinity is a global phenomenon, but nowhere is it more virulent than in this hypermodern, connected society. What can other countries learn from this ‘ground zero’ of misogyny?
Men in America have for decades
All men?
Enough to create the culture is all it takes. Being here I would hope that you understand we do this to each other too
People in US can pick and chose their culture.
Are women not allowed to choose the men in their lives?
Not really, can’t choose your family. And your ability to relocate jobs, community, or even out of relationships can be restricted by income.
And trying to change our culture is often met with reactionary backlash. I don’t know if you’ve looked into Edward Bernays but the state of gender relations started bad here by default and was made institutionally disastrous by our government. It actually is baked in to our culture just to be shitty to women and others who don’t meet specific ideals.
Ok some women grew up in households with loser men in charge and useless moms.
What would you estimate % of such households is?
I don’t know, don’t really need a number personally. I know I grew up with bad male figures and I know women who had bad male figures including my mother and aunts.
If you made me guess I’d say 90% just based on the number of women who have disclosed to me something fucked up happening to them. Don’t think you can verify that number though because people don’t exactly report their families. None that I know did.
Are you actually interested in any of this? It’s strongly tied to men’s liberation but I get the feeling you might be coming at this from a “which gender is worse” angle.
This is not women v men discussion. I am trying to understand how some men’s poor behaviour is being used to suggest that this is the norm.
This is not my personal experience. That’s now how women in my life were raised. They don’t tolerate loser men to any degree.
Picking a good partner is likely the most important decision any person can make. So even if you come from bad background, it is still on you to make the right choices. That’s how systematic change happens.
Oh! Glad to hear it. I fall for sealioning a lot so I was afraid I did it again.
It sounds like the people in your life had good upbringing and social support. I suppose for perspective I grew up in a place where that’s uncommon. I’m glad people are safe to be themselves around you.
Picking a good partner is a huge thing but there are factors that effect that. Like children who are abused or neglected will be vulnerable to abusers when they’re older. Also abusers are proficient at hiding themselves until they have a potential victim in a vulnerable position. I suppose the reason there’s such a strong outcry to change our culture here is because it has made ideal conditions for men to become abusers to women and to each other without recourse. The ones who do get punished are ones that just failed their stealth check to misuse power within what our culture considers acceptable.