Firstly, thank you for accepting me into the community. Within the last few weeks I came to the realisation that there is no such thing as a healthy, stable, capitalist society. I want to learn more about communism because it could be a real alternative to the frankly poor conditions of working class life in the UK (and any other capitalist country).
There is one thing that stands out to me here that I’d like to understand because it’s a little jarring. In a few places (e.g. https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9012898/6943775) on the topic of Russia, specifically the war, people seem to believe the invasion was justified and that the Ukraine government is Nazi? Why? From my point of view, which I do admit is going to have inherent Western/NATO bias because I live in the UK, is that this is an example of Russian imperialism. If the US invaded Canada, or the UK invaded France, it would rightly be considered a travesty. Why is Russia not given the same treatment? After all, it is not communist any more and it is working class people being sent to die in this war.
Shouldn’t the modern Russian government receive the same scrutiny as any other capitalist government?
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/8990113?scrollToComments=true The new government then provoked a uprising among the ethnic russian parts of the country (essentially everything east of Kiev) followed by a civil war, terror bombings, ethnic cleansing. https://lemmygrad.ml/c/donbass
Crimea dipped out asap in 2014 and asked to join Russia shortly after.
Russia meanwhile tried to deescalate the situation diplomatially. This lead to the Minsk 2 agreement, which Ukraine violated time and time again without any punishment. Mere possibilities of violats by Russia lead to more sanctions o Russia tho. Eventually former Chancelor Merkel and former French Pres outright stated that Misnk 2 was never intended to be upheld, it was just a ruse to give Ukraine more time to increase the effectiveness of its forces.
In 22 Russia formally recognized the two Donbas republics as independent states and answered their calls for military assistance.
“Russian imperialism” my ass.
A dead giveaway are the red and black banners you can see a plenty in picture from Ukraine. That’s the banner of the fascist UPA militia who aided the Nazis in the Holocaust. They are considered national heroes in Ukraine. Their slogan was “Slava Ukraini! Slava Heroiam!”, which now is the offical slogan of the Ukranian armed forces. You propably know that slogan or at least the first half, because every lib under the sub was yelling it in 22.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
You should propably start then. Because you did not apply any scrutiny whatsoever to the offical western line.
You’re absolutely right. There’s a lot I don’t know, your response and the others have given me a lot to read about. Thank you!