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    “I’ve owned it for 8 months. It is depreciating like a rock. I have already lost over $20k in 8 months. I want to cut my losses and move on, but I can’t give this thing away unless I lower the price to probably $79k. Sucks.”

    This right here sums up the unrealistic expectations of the average Tesla owner. Cars immediately depreciate the moment you drive them off the lot, no car is immune to this. The average new car loses 10% in the first month after buying it. It loses over 20% in the first year. For those who are playing along this track’s with exactly how much this doofus has “lost” on his truck.

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      The average new car loses 10% in the first month after buying it. It loses over 20% in the first year.

      The theory behind this is that you’d only be selling a slightly used car if it was a lemon. The exception to the rule is resellers who already have a buyer lined up when they take possession of the vehicle.

      But because Musk-o-philes are all Bitcoin brained and cannot conceive of prices ever going down, they’re routinely shocked to discover that cars are for driving and not for speculating.

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          No, I’m not eating $2000 worth of fast food, I’m investing. People will pay 10x that for recently deceased human organs, and I’m using my money to unlock that earning potential

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      Though I’d say this one takes it to a whole new level because of a few extra factors:

      1. Pre-orders were priced for exclusivity. Iirc, Tesla was having a lot of production/inventory issues when the pre-orders were collected. I’m not sure how much the deposits were, but they’d have added some sunk cost to the situation, making it harder to walk away when it might have been clear that they would be a shitshow. No one has a deposit on anyone’s used cyber truck to add incentive to pay the rest.
      2. Elon’s reputation hadn’t sunk so low when pre-orders were made. Iirc, it was after the whole submarine/pedophile thing, but it seems that many didn’t see the writing on the wall from that event.
      3. They turned out to be pretty bad. Other Teslas have and had issues but the cyber truck has had some particularly embarrassing ones for a truck. Like not handling rain or sand well.
      4. It looks so unique that it doesn’t really fly under the radar. The two other very hated vehicles I can think of off-hand, the PT Cruiser and the Aztec, were ugly but still looked similar enough to other vehicles that many people didn’t know what they were or that they were so unpopular. People could buy one before they realized, and it was easier to not care what others thought. The cyber truck looks like a 90s video game truck in a time when memes reach many more people, to the point where openly laughing at cyber trucks you see in RL might be a meme.
      5. Cars and trucks are expensive in general, but this one is on another level. While I might be behind on inflation, the price is comparable to a mid/low-end Porsche (~80k for a boxter, ~120k for a 911 is my benchmark, though it’s old but it’s also CAD, so maybe it works today for USD). A) why would someone want that more than a Porsche? B) most people can’t afford a Porsche.

      Not to mention the people Elon is pandering to these days either have trouble affording his vehicles without a dealer trying to convince a bank to take the loan, or can easily afford it but have money in part because they don’t spend it on stupid shit like a cyber truck.

      All of that on top of the usual depreciation.

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        Not to mention the stainless steel it’s made of is not even the type that resists rusting. Did you see the state of the Cyber truck that MKBHD sold? It look like a fucking derelict prop from a post-apocalyptic movie set.

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      You’re right.

      Top Gear did a piece about the Aston Martin Vantage. New, £170,000 (GBP). 20,000 miles later it was worth £80,000. 90k depreciation in less than a year.

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      Tesla’s have the absolute worst resale value compared to ICE, PHEV or Hybrids. Batteries degrade over time and with increased usage, so by the time you try to sell a Tesla that’s a few years old, a lot of the advertised maximum capacity has escaped from that battery and the cost of a replacement likely exceeds the value of the entire used car.

      Two of my coworkers got fantastic deals on used Tesla’s because they go for so cheap on the secondary market and California is awash in them so there’s always someone somewhere trying to get rid of theirs and usually for less that what it would normally blue book for.

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    …he has driven and sold over 40 exotic cars, and the Cybertruck is the one vehicle he is having the most trouble finding buyers for.

    Not saying the Cybertruck is a good thing, personally IDGAF about it, but calling this guy merely “a cybertruck owner” is bullshit. He’s a guy who makes money buying and selling expensive vehicles, and he’s whining about a deal that hasn’t worked out for him. Poor baby.

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    “I can’t give this thing away.” - Guy who is asking $89,000 for a used vehicle that now sells new for $72,500.

    Don’t buy vehicles from a company led by an unstable Nazi CEO, dipshit.

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      Also, “give away” typically means $0. $89000 is to the best of my knowledge larger than $0. I’ll bet he could give it away, but he doesn’t want to do that.

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        “giving it away” can also mean selling it cheap.

        Edit: damn I’m not defending this price, just explaining the metaphorical phrase. Chill yall

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          No, “giving away” means giving something for free. A better way to say it would be “practically or as if I’m giving it away”.

          Of course, in daily discourse you might say “I gave it away” instead of “I got rid of it” or “I sold it” since it sounds nicer and is probably more informative when someone asks you “What happened to your car?” and you want to mean I gave it to someone else and didn’t take any money for it, not when you post it for sale on Facebook Marketplace.

          The fact that people list “giveaways” where you pay for anything other than shipping, tax, etc. does not change what the words mean.

          And even if we’re cutting it close with “practically giving away”, the max price I’d give on such a “given away car” is $500. Anything more is cutting your losses.

          $90k is 180 times that amount. Does that mean he wants to give the car away 180 times?

          It’s the same underlying wordplay.

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          I am giving away the chance to read this comment. Since you have already done so, where should I send the $89,000 bill? Or are you thieving scum?

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          Going from $89k to “give it away” is not exaggeration, it’s whiny pissboy bullshittery.

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            No it isn’t. It’s an extremely common phrase people use all the time when talking about things. I’ve said it about my own junk.

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    “can’t give this thing away unless I lower the price to probably $79k. Sucks.”

    A brand new AWD CT from Tesla is $79,990.

    Headline is clickbait. Seller is a whinger. Trash all round. Saved you a click.

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      from the tardygrade’s perspective is it playing a large violin or a normal-sized cello?

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        Size-wise, relative to him, it’s much closer to a violin than a cello, maybe slightly larger. So a viola would be the best fit. I think the picture is of a cello though, just sized strangely.

        Edit: that image is strange. It’s really popular, but bad. He’s playing the strings from the wrong side of the bridge. How do you get that wrong?

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          Because of the size difference between humans and tardigrades, it’s hard for tardigrades to attend music lessons and otherwise learn about human musical instruments, so give him a chance, he’s probably trying his best.

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          It’s impressive enough that a creature without thumbs is able to hold the bow in the first place, and you want to criticise him for how he’s holding his cellolin?

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          Nah, that’s a cello, a viola just looks like a violin and plays like one, the difference in size is so small you probably won’t notice unless they’re sitting next to each other… The cello is played like in the picture and has a body that’s noticably thicker than a violin or viola even if they were all scaled to the same size

          Edit: you know what, on looking closer, I’m not 100% sure that is actually cello thick, but it’s been a long time since I’ve seen them in person on a regular basis

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            https://hub.yamaha.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Violin-and-Viola-Sizing-for-Blog.jpg

            Thinks cello’s are too big for the one that microscopic buttworm has, which is why I thought of viola, which sits right between viola and violin. Didn’t know they weren’t played like cellos. Have never really paid attention to Viola’s much.

            I’ve only heard what they sound like and I feel like they’re the redheaded step child of the string instruments. Who exactly likes this sound? Bass gives a deep sound for F clef and more somber tones, Celo provides a rich highly dynamic tone that can deliver low tones but also beautiful melodies, and the violin is the violin. With the viola, you’re what exactly do you do here? The motherfucking recorder of the violin family.

            Are your hands too big for the violin and you simply hate the beauty of the cello? Do you like shitty tones? Are you perma-drunk? Rhythm instrument in Bass not for you? Well, I’ve got just the inbred idiot for you.

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          you can play a violin like that, but it would need to rest on your knee, and I’m just not seeing it

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    I can think of one way to get rid of it. Saw it on the news last week. He’s probably not going to like it.

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      Musk said it will be back on the road in no time. I don’t think it’s going to be quite that easy.

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        At least the driver was kind enough to drive it to Musk’s assistant’s place of business.

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    “I can’t give this thing away.”

    FTA: He’s not trying to give it away. He’s expecting last year’s used market value for it, but it’s steadily depreciating. Someone offered him 50k for it. He overpaid for a new car.

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    There is a Tesla dealership near my house that has a lot full of them. A ridiculous number. It seems that Tesla is struggling to get rid of them. Hard to believe that there is not a huge market for electric dumpsters sold by a conspicuous asshole.

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    you can buy a brand-new Cybertruck straight from the manufacturer cheaper than Sledder is asking to sell his used truck.

    Wow I wonder why there’s no takers

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      The paint job is totally worth the extra 19k you guyse!!!

      The article says there’s a madman offering 50k cash for it. Poor soul.

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        Actually 50k sounds a lot closer to reasonable for a somewhat used car that currently sells new for 80k’ish. Of course, I’m saying that in the hypothetical generic car vacuum, not the actual “electric dumpster” reality.

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    Apparently Elon unfollowed MKBHD after he posted selling his Founders Cybertruck at a $50K loss and saying the Rivian RT1 was a better truck lol.

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    Sledder also shares that over his lifetime, - he has driven and sold over 40 exotic cars, and the Cybertruck is the one vehicle he is having the most trouble finding buyers for.

    Oh, I’m so sorry sir, it’s frightfully unfair that this particular transaction has not worked out as favorablly as you’re used to. Would you care for a sparkling beverage while Life figures out how to make itself better for you?

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    Between price drops and the cybertruck recently qualifying for the federal EV tax credit, buyers can get a brand new unit for what this guy is asking. This early adopter paid too much and got a bad deal, but there’s no mystery as to why no one wants to buy at his asking price.

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    the shitposter in me wants to say that this isn’t a problem you find a solution to, its karma for doing business with the devil.

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    The Cybertruck owner listed his truck for sale for $89,000.

    The same dual-motor Cybertruck AWD variant now starts at $80,000. However, starting in 2025, the vehicle qualifies for the $7,500 point of sale tax credit. This further lowers the starting price to $72,500.

    Tesla is also now offering a $2,000 discount to anyone who applies a referral code when buying the vehicle. That further lowers the starting price to $70,500.

    LOLOL.

    Everyone expects top dollar for used shit these days.

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      This fucking article goes on 3 more paragraphs after that about how great the current offerings from Tesla are. Feels like the whole thing is just a Cybertruck sales puff piece in disguise.