Proposed legislation behind the impending US government shutdown contains provisions that would ban federal funding for transgender adults, as well as youngsters.

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    How many kids did this fucker rape??? Every day it’s a new horrid thing to try and distract us from the fact He Raped Children!

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      Yeah I’m pretty positive that he himself was a trafficker. Not just a client. Also a lot of the girls are likely dead.

      I bet that is what is being hidden. Because it’s worse than what people think it is.

      Maga is already ok with him being a pedo as long as it was girls.

      So it has to be much worse than that.

  • Jaysyn@lemmy.world
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    Mike Johnson shut the government down to prevent the release of the Epstein files. Full stop.

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      I’m in one of those, fucked either way cases. If the government doesn’t shut down, I lose my healthcare, if it does shut down I potentially lose my job since I work for the government.

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        Hey! A fellow gov worker! So, how’s the last 6 months been stress shitting your guts out and expecting to be fired every day? Because I’m sure as fuck not having a good time and want off this god damned ride.

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          Funnily enough, I was a government worker shortly before Trump took over. The highlights included gaslighting me on my rights as a worker, telling me not to rock the boat, then shitcanning me when I filed grievances with my union. The very same union that refused to go to bat for me because “arbitrations are expensive”.

          Also having my eyes opened to the absolutely ludicrous waste generated by government operations. I saw brand new 24 inch computer monitors still sealed in the box thrown in the trash, but I was simply told “there is no government waste” when I asked what was going on. Seeing a forklift bought for a single job before being “scrapped” was also wild.

          Honestly, do yourself a big favor and look for a transfer to private sector. I’ve got a union that actually listens to me now and better benefits than a fed. Couldn’t be happier.

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            The very same union that refused to go to bat for me because “arbitrations are expensive”.

            What the fuck

            Sounds like government workers need a new union. Not that they’d ever get it, I assume, particularly if it poses a risk of actually being able to do something rather than just serving as a scapegoat to point at why unions are useless.

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              It’s not enough to catch your employer breaking the law. It’s not even enough to have a mile wide paper trail leading anyone with eyes to the evidence of your employer breaking the law. When your employer is the government, every single person involved is directly incentivised to protect the employer from any and all indication that they could have possibly done anything wrong, ever.

              This includes your union rep, who is still paid by the very same tax dollars you are paid with, though in a round about way.

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            Oh trust me I’ve been working on it. I’m not at all surprised by your story, I knew the DOGE shit was complete bs.

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          The worst part is I’m fairly new, I accepted the job offer before the election and started it after the election. The hope day I accepted the job offer and the dread of starting first day was quite disparate.

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        Sorry you’re in that position. I can’t believe this is where were at. Who non millionaire could possibly be on the presidents side on this one?

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      I honestly don’t think he even knows what shutting down the government actually means. I’m betting he thinks it’s just the poors not getting access to essential services, which he’s probably fine with. I’m positive he doesn’t realize that it cuts off literally every perk except for secret service that he gets as president. The entire White House staff will be sent home except for executives and unpaid interns.

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        I’m pretty certain you’re correct.

        I’ve been loosely following along (I am not an American), and I did not realize the consequences myself. Holy shit, he’s basically halting paycheques for a lot of the people working directly and indirectly for the government.

        I feel bad for those people. Hopefully they have enough to weather this storm until Taco gets advised that this action is fucking stupid as all hell.

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        Honestly, at this point the government already is shut down. It’s been shut down for months. We’re just still in the denial stage. Trump’s claimed and a criminally corrupt SCOTUS has endorsed Trump just refusing to pay funds allocated by Congress. There is absolutely zero point in Democrats negotiating with Republicans on this, as Trump can just refuse to pay any Democratic priorities they fund.

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        The entire White House staff will be sent home except for executives and unpaid interns.

        As long as one of those interns will bring him McDonalds, he won’t care.

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          Can or can’t doesn’t really matter to Trump. He will blame Democrats he will blame Biden he will blame “antifa” and he will blame immigrants. Trump is inherently incapable of taking responsibility for anything. He will just pick a group or person, usually one that is particularly irritating to him in that moment, and he will shove all the responsibility for everything that’s going wrong on them.

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            I was being rhetorical. He can and he’s backed by legacy and new media. Goebbels built Nazi propaganda “in a cave with a box of scraps”, imagine what can be done with AI, bots and social media.

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    Cis people should be scared about this too. Things like supplementing estrogen (for woman after they have gone through menopause) or testosterone is a quite normal thing. Im betting my ass, that this regulations will affect these things too.

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      While I understand it’s not ok to give in here, this is just an attempt to move the battle. There’s no need to justify defending human rights here (for any decent humans) but don’t let it distract us. We can’t waste time arguing this. Don’t let them move the goalposts. This is just “no” and return to the larger fight

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        Until they move the in-group. Which they’ll do if they continue to get their way. They have to keep projecting power like this to keep this up, and they’ll continue to grind through subgroups of the population to do it.

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        The in-group is wide enough that the people at the edges are hit with the splatter when the guy at the top takes another dump.

        If he makes it illegal to even provide estrogen or testosterone to patients, hospitals won’t stock it.

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        You’re not wrong, but you forgot that the in-group always shrink.

        Also, it is usual for fascists to throw others “under the bus” as a way to save their own face.

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        Except that the in-group is constantly shifting, to ensure there’s always an enemy to rally the masses against. The only consistently protected group is the rich.

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    I don’t understand this at all healthcare in America is private so what the fuck does the government have to “worry” about? They are not paying for any of this.

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      yes, but also maybe take the threat against trans people seriously? like, Trump just said he wants to ban trans healthcare. it seems like that should also be a big deal. saying that everything is a distraction from the Epstein files has become a distraction from some serious shit.

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        The point is that the Epstein files has been pretty much the only thing to bring cracks in Republican support for Trump.

        Everyone who is upset at this news on Trans health care already know Trump is a useless piece of shit. His base on the other hand will probably cheer this on.

        So driving that wedge that is the Epstein files is imperative if we want to chip away at his approval ratings and hope we can salvage this shit in next year’s midterms (I know, a stretch).

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          It just feels a lot like “oh, trans people? Fuck em. Show me the list!”

          Like I really don’t see how it helps anything to post it here. Go talk to conservatives about it instead of posting it in threads where everyone already knows about it.

          Because calling it a distraction when he is actively trying to kill me and people that I care about really just feels like y’all don’t give a shit about us either.

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            Personally I don’t get that impression of, “Oh, trans people? Fuck em.” It’s more, “Strike them at their pressure points because look at this kind of fucked up shit they’re doing!”

            You never know who the lurkers are, and it refreshes minds of our side to go out and remain on message. It’s useful to me in that regards.

            Sadly it’s just a reality that the people we need to convince already support what he’s doing on this issue.

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    So wait…. You’ll shut down the biggest thing that has been causing everyone so much grief?

    Don’t threaten us with a good time. Also;

    WE DON’T NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS.

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    The Democrats should threaten shut the government down unless they release the Epstein files. Fuck it all, make the Republicans have to tell their constituents they were willing to shut the government down to protect the Pedophile in Chief

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      That would require the democrats to act as an actual opposition party, which they have basically never done.

      EDIT: I apologize, I must make a correction, the democrat party did act as an actual opposition party from approximately 1861 until the early 20th century, but I don’t think anyone should cite that as a proud example.