• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Do you have any evidence that “protest voters” had any meaningful impact on the elections? Because all evidence I’ve seen to date indicates the same voter and election fraud that’s put the GOP into power for decades is to blame (purging voter rolls, gerrymandering, arbitrary rejection of postal votes, disenfranchisement)

    If you don’t have evidence, have you ever considered the whole “Liberals blaming progressives for Trump” is part of the multi-decade PsyOps campaign to turn Liberals against the left, and continue shifting the overton window in normalizing fascism and corporate dictatorship?

    Maybe you should stop blaming the citizens who drew a line in the sand at genocide, and start blaming the political class that facilitated genocide, and continue to — perhaps rather surprisingly to liberals? — do absolutely nothing as a fascist dictatorship is implemented by their major corporate donors?

    Edit. I’m Australian. Thanks for proving my point though! The liberals of L/politics are identical to the liberals of R/politics, blinded by 80 years of corporate propaganda. Enjoy your fascist dictatorship and civil war!

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      10 hours ago

      You’re getting downvoted and I’m soon to follow, but everything you said is reasonable and it’s almost never wrong to ask for evidence. I continue to be surprised at how tightly this community clings to the narrative that non-voters alone decided the election.

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      12 hours ago

      Corporate propaganda?

      You might be surprised to learn there was more than one group at fault for this.

      The “I don’t like Biden” group should have known better. At least the magats have the excuse of being fully indoctrinated into a cult.

      That’s why the smaller group is called out. Because they knew better.

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      1st, gerrymandering has nothing to do with the presidential election. It was obvious from your post you know very little about US elections.

      Next, there were 8.2 million fewer votes in 2024 than 2020. All of that loss was on the democratic side. Do you have evidence literally millions of voters were disenfranchised?

      Had those missing voters participated in good faith in 2024, Trump would not be president today.

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        9 hours ago

        So gerrymandering — which has facilitated the stealing of state elections and influenced state laws for decades, including around the handling of elections, purging of legitimate voters, disenfranchisement, etc — has no effect on federal elections whatsoever?

        Please continue to libsplain me on my knowledge of US politics… I’m sure you’re able to see the big picture and long term trends; not simply as confidently ignorant as 99% of D’s I’ve dealt with on social media for the last 2 decades. Keep up the stellar work, champ!

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          Lol, I say one thing and you answer another. Just like you did with the original post. THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IS THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, NOT FEDERAL ELECTIONS AS A WHOLE.

          If I say it slower, will that help you understand? Quit changing the fucking topic to try and make your point. And as I pointed out, please let me know when you find evidence 8.2M people tried to vote but couldn’t.

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            18 minutes ago

            Who’s a big boy? You are! The fascists don’t stand a chance in the face of your unbridled intellect.