This last job search was between Amazon and Meta. I was at the offer stage of both. Then a third smaller company came in. I’m pretty sure the third could have been a whaling company and it would have been a less bad option. Was very happy to turn both of them down.
Both have extremely long and moderately random interview processes. You need to be extremely bright and extremely lucky to get to stage 8 or 9 of the interview process with either of them.
Sure. You don’t think these bright and lucky people ever interview at two places at once?
Having leverage to demand a top salary from one of these orgs by having them counter a job offer from the other seems to be the exact thing a bright and lucky person would do.
I guess you don’t think anyone on lemmy, a platform that leans heavily towards tech like early reddit did, could be bright and lucky?
It’s the element of randomness as opposed to the applicant’s accumen that makes me question it.
I’ve done FAANG interview processes and I have friends/colleagues who have done them before too. Often the people who get jobs with them apply every year (or as often as allowed) with roughly the same CV, and do roughly as well in the practical tests, but they can end up being weeded out at different stages of the process seemingly at random.
It depends on factors like the mood of the interviewer, or the standard of the other applicants, etc. The whole thing is just so hard to reach the final stage of that I am having difficulty imagining that there are many people who have been in the position of being in the final stages for more than one role.
Edit: I have an extremely talented colleague at the moment who used to work for Meta and he had to apply an insane amount of times despite the fact he is technically extremely proficient.
Okay, so the issue is that you can’t imagine someone doing anything that you or someone you personally know hasnt been able to do?
You realize also that the commenter could be talking about applying to both back in the 2000s or 2010s? Maybe back during a time when the process wasn’t this stringent or when it was a labor market?
One who openly admits they’re fairly senior and living in one of the tech hubs oh no way. To be fair to people outside of the tech hubs, it’s absolutely nuts when you live near big tech. They’re always sort of… Looming. Like when homer was working at the bowling alley and then loses his job and it pans up to reveal the nuclear power plant looking over everything. Except it’s Amazon.
A SWE that can get offers from both Amazon and especially Meta has no stress to get a job at any other company. If you want to get a job at aunt Mary ice cream and oil change shop, you will get it.
If you don’t want to work for Amazon or meta (who have famously hard interview processes, and very long too)… why do you apply?? You can much easier get a job at any local or international b-tier company.
You make a lot of money and if you’ve been in FAANGs for a while then it’s a natural transfer.
But to back them up, one of my buddies interviewed at Microsoft, Google, and Meta all at the same time, and then was able to pit Google and Microsoft against each other to get a really really cool job.
But OP said they didn’t want to work at either and would take any other job regardless. Didn’t mention about negotiating, or anything. It very much didn’t happen.
This last job search was between Amazon and Meta. I was at the offer stage of both. Then a third smaller company came in. I’m pretty sure the third could have been a whaling company and it would have been a less bad option. Was very happy to turn both of them down.
Of all the things that didn’t happen, this one happened the least.
Yeah, it’s not like a software dev would interview with 2 big software companies, right?
Both have extremely long and moderately random interview processes. You need to be extremely bright and extremely lucky to get to stage 8 or 9 of the interview process with either of them.
Sure. You don’t think these bright and lucky people ever interview at two places at once?
Having leverage to demand a top salary from one of these orgs by having them counter a job offer from the other seems to be the exact thing a bright and lucky person would do.
I guess you don’t think anyone on lemmy, a platform that leans heavily towards tech like early reddit did, could be bright and lucky?
It’s the element of randomness as opposed to the applicant’s accumen that makes me question it.
I’ve done FAANG interview processes and I have friends/colleagues who have done them before too. Often the people who get jobs with them apply every year (or as often as allowed) with roughly the same CV, and do roughly as well in the practical tests, but they can end up being weeded out at different stages of the process seemingly at random.
It depends on factors like the mood of the interviewer, or the standard of the other applicants, etc. The whole thing is just so hard to reach the final stage of that I am having difficulty imagining that there are many people who have been in the position of being in the final stages for more than one role.
Edit: I have an extremely talented colleague at the moment who used to work for Meta and he had to apply an insane amount of times despite the fact he is technically extremely proficient.
Okay, so the issue is that you can’t imagine someone doing anything that you or someone you personally know hasnt been able to do?
You realize also that the commenter could be talking about applying to both back in the 2000s or 2010s? Maybe back during a time when the process wasn’t this stringent or when it was a labor market?
It’s just my opinion, man ¯_(ツ)_/¯
One who openly admits they’re fairly senior and living in one of the tech hubs oh no way. To be fair to people outside of the tech hubs, it’s absolutely nuts when you live near big tech. They’re always sort of… Looming. Like when homer was working at the bowling alley and then loses his job and it pans up to reveal the nuclear power plant looking over everything. Except it’s Amazon.
A SWE that can get offers from both Amazon and especially Meta has no stress to get a job at any other company. If you want to get a job at aunt Mary ice cream and oil change shop, you will get it.
If you don’t want to work for Amazon or meta (who have famously hard interview processes, and very long too)… why do you apply?? You can much easier get a job at any local or international b-tier company.
You make a lot of money and if you’ve been in FAANGs for a while then it’s a natural transfer.
But to back them up, one of my buddies interviewed at Microsoft, Google, and Meta all at the same time, and then was able to pit Google and Microsoft against each other to get a really really cool job.
But OP said they didn’t want to work at either and would take any other job regardless. Didn’t mention about negotiating, or anything. It very much didn’t happen.
K. Don’t need you to believe me. They asked I answered.
I believe in you.