Kalani keeps saying Asuelu cheated 12 times, but she also alluded to his ‘cheating’ in America as online chats with cam-girls? She makes it sound like he physically cheated 12 separate times. What’s the real story here? I know chatting with girls could be considered cheating…but I feel like she’s intentionally making it sound like it was ‘physical’ cheating, to justify her own behaviour. Thoughts?

  • Appropriate_Milk_775@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    She definitely keeps moving the goal posts to justify her own behavior. It started with getting a blowjob, then it was cheated 12 times, then it was cheated throughout our relationship. Now he’s sexually assaulted her. He should probably sue for defamation tbh.

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      11 months ago

      People say he hasn’t defended himself but I dont’ think he can read, there’s scenes where she has to read for him.

      So he might not even know about her accusations to defend himself.

      Not saying it didn’t happen or she’s lying, but I can see that he might not be able to understand how explosive her accusations are to defend himself.

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    11 months ago

    I don’t really think it matters if it’s physical or not…

    I think it’s a common belief that going on cam websites/buying content is cheating

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      11 months ago

      Yes, it does matter because she threw out that number there for you for you think that he slept with 12 different people because it sounds outrageous and it’s not exactly what happened but she does that to distract from what she’s doing….

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    11 months ago

    Realistically-

    12 times doesnt mean 12 different girls.

    And many 90 day cast members routinely say chatting online with girls or guys is synonymous with “cheating”. So it could be a combo. Keeping it vague keeps us in suspense i guess. Are you not entertained!?!

  • jennlafaxine@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    The definition of cheating is up to the people in the relationship. If Kalani has expressed she doesn’t want him on OF or whatever, and he continues the behavior anyway (and tries to hide it), he’s being deceptive.

    The key ingredient in cheating is deception.

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      11 months ago

      Bad answer. This isn’t what is being asked. The question is plainly did he have physical sex that many times and the answer is no.

      Did he cheat 12 times? Sure.

      Did he have sex or anything physical 12 times? No.

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        11 months ago

        The literal question to this post is “Did Asuelu really cheat 12 times?” We literally just watched him give no fucks at the strip club even though he knew Kalani wouldn’t be ok with it in the last episode. Who knows what he was up to with those cam girls. I doubt he only had appropriate conversations with with them.

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            11 months ago

            This is what I’m talking about, Kilani saying he cheated 12 times is totally her trying to down play her side piece that she fell in love with. Like yes he was talking to women and got a BJ once. Kilani is taking that rod and keeps going back to it. What kilani is doing is way worse

            • payasoingenioso@alien.topB
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              11 months ago

              Divorce that fool, or keep it platonic.

              I know this seems difficult for some to process, but “making it work” is a TERRIBLE way to have a relationship.

              Fvck making anything work unless there’s money involved. Even then, I would rather struggle and make the money back than CHOOSE to deal with bum behavior.

            • ExpensiveSolid8990@alien.topB
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              11 months ago

              What do you mean downplay? What he did is plenty horrible. He continuously treated her like shit for all those years and the only way he realized how awful it feels to get cheated on was for Kalani to give him a taste of his own medicine. I don’t agree with her actions but they’re on a therapy show where they are there to share their stories. Asuelu is still on this show texting other women while he’s supposedly finally “invested” in saving their marriage and continues to try hiding it. Kalani isn’t worse than Asuelu. They both suck!

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                11 months ago

                We don’t know that he was actually deleting messages from girls. I thought it could be messages from the guys about plans to go to the strip club. Also, ppl cheating (kalani) often get paranoid and make baseless accusations. They both suck equally

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                  11 months ago

                  You have a good point. We really don’t know what the truth is except that they are both lying to one another by hiding things. Either way it doesn’t help his case about him trying to look like he’s the one who truly cares to save his marriage this time.

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        11 months ago

        It’s the oddest of behavior to tell someone “bad answer.”

        Odd af.

        No gavel.

        No law degree as far as I know.

        Yet, you are the last word.

        So odd. 😂

        • Ok_Interview_2325@alien.topB
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          11 months ago

          I don’t know the real answer though. I have no idea whether Asuelo physically cheated or not that’s why I’m reading comments to find the answer lol. But there’s people like you who instead are just saying “cheating is cheating” as if that’s relevant.

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      11 months ago

      There’s no emotional cheating when he buying girls’ online content unless he was mainiting relationships with them.

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      11 months ago

      Where is the line drawn though? Angela blowing up on Michael because the other guys called him while they were at the strip club kinda surprised me… but then I remembered it’s Angela and she looks for reasons to be mad.

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        11 months ago

        I mean, plenty of women out there might get upset at their guy just chilling at a strip club. Fewer would get mad about homies calling a mofo when he wasnt even their lol. Saw some show, may have been some TLV shit but i dont remember. Dudes wife was pissed at him for jerking off because “thats cheating”. I think most folks would consider that way past the line of reasonable.

    • BlazeOfGlory72@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Does Asuale have emotions to cheat with? I’m semi convinced that if you opened up his head it would be as hollow as his beloved coconuts.

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    11 months ago

    Every couple sets their own boundaries for what they consider cheating or not. If Kalani considers online chats and videos cheating then it is. I think a lot of ppl in monogamous relationships would too

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    11 months ago

    She’s just framing it that way to justify her rampant cheating. Out of nowhere, “Hey, girls, he cheated SOOO many times, by the way, my side piece is coming here to f me!”

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    11 months ago

    He has not denied it, so whatever it is that they (Kalani and Asuelu) consider cheating, he accepts that he’s done it

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        11 months ago

        Bad answer.

        Here is a lesson for you….If a partner cheats once, the scale of what is considered cheating changes. Broken trust one time shatters any level of trust.

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          11 months ago

          It’s a BAD ANSWER because THAT’S NOT WHAT WAS BEING ASKED.

          I agree it’s cheating. But I’m apparently the only one who cares to answer OPs question at face value instead of giving her some weird lecture about what is and isn’t cheating. Which she didn’t ask and probably doesn’t need.

          People want to know if this does actually physically pulled 10 partners physically. THAT’S FINE. i gave the answer.

          He did not have intercourse with x amount of women.

          He’s still a cheater.

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            11 months ago

            I read this whole post differently than you and I can see both sides. The title asks if he cheated, the post then alludes to the fact that OP doesn’t agree that online sexual conversations is cheating (AFTER Asuelu was outed as a physical cheater), thinks it’s an American thing to consider that cheating (LOL). So a lot of commenters are rejecting that thought process.

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    11 months ago

    The bottom line is they both have done some really stupid things that are inexcusable in a marriage. The frequency or type of cheating isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that any of it happened at all.

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    11 months ago

    Imagine this. One of the guys had a side piece in another hotel. They would be crucified. I think there is a major double standard happening.

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    11 months ago

    I don’t think he physically cheated 12 times but it is still bad.

    I say he physically cheated before he got to the States and then cheated recently.

    Then he online cheated the rest of the time. Again, still all bad

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    11 months ago

    Buying time with a cam girl or personalized content is way more intimate than just browsing pornhub. Easily classifiable as cheating