So many well-intentioned posts in here are licking the boot. Traffic happens. IBS happens. Children emergencies happen. The company should shoulder the cost of contingencies to account for natural human fluctuation. If the job is mission critical, why are you demanding humans be robots?
That’s the nuance I was fishing for: There seems to be a blanket expectation that everyone everywhere need to be at work at the a specific time, usually set by the business owners rather than the employees themselves.
Random office drone, not much.
In that case, I don’t think being 10 minutes “late” is an issue, with exceptions (like fixed appointments) and limits (some shared time frame where colleagues can expect to reach each other or plan meetings in).
Some degree of flexibility with working times should be the standard, where practical. Anything with strict schedules where tardiness screws over others, I’m fully on board with expecting punctuality.
A person who cannot be punctual is ill in some way. Do you shine a spotlight on their affliction, sealing their fate? Or do you pull them aside and ask them if you can do anything to support them?
So many well-intentioned posts in here are licking the boot. Traffic happens. IBS happens. Children emergencies happen. The company should shoulder the cost of contingencies to account for natural human fluctuation. If the job is mission critical, why are you demanding humans be robots?
Exceptions are ok. But what if someone is 10 minutes late every single time?
What consequences does their being late have for the business?
Depends on the business?
A teacher, quite a bit. A bus driver, a lot.
Working retail, depends on if they’re the only one working there.
Random office drone, not much.
That’s the nuance I was fishing for: There seems to be a blanket expectation that everyone everywhere need to be at work at the a specific time, usually set by the business owners rather than the employees themselves.
In that case, I don’t think being 10 minutes “late” is an issue, with exceptions (like fixed appointments) and limits (some shared time frame where colleagues can expect to reach each other or plan meetings in).
Some degree of flexibility with working times should be the standard, where practical. Anything with strict schedules where tardiness screws over others, I’m fully on board with expecting punctuality.
Are they getting their work done satisfactorily? Then who fucking cares
As long as they also stay 10 minutes later, what is the problem?
Depends on the job. On an office job nobody should care, flex hours should be the norm
But if they’re opening the store first in the morning, it’s a bigger issue
A person who cannot be punctual is ill in some way. Do you shine a spotlight on their affliction, sealing their fate? Or do you pull them aside and ask them if you can do anything to support them?
That’s a bit of a stretch
Is it the job of everyone else to assist you in confronting your problem? If we presume we are talking about adults then it absolutely is not.
Not only that, if I’m that crucial to a company my salary should get another zero.