She can apologize all she wants, but actions speak louder than words. Until she starts taking action to prove she’s sorry, nothing has actually changed.
She’s not sorry.
She’s running for president
Fuck no, she should absolutely run for president. :) I think a a primary between Ted Cruz, Desantis and MTG would be sweet.
I don’t forgive you
Seriously.
I feel like i’m about to be put in a padded room. What the fuck is happening to my reality. what kind of weirdo alternate reality have I woken up to, where MTG of all people is being sane and rational… and has been that way for at least a month or three now.
Do I go outside and start flinging my hands at neighbors and screaming fireball, in the hopes this weird new world I have apparently found myself in has magic?
Hell has frozen over.
This is a good start. I still hope she leaves office and is never heard from again, but maybe her doing this will open the door for some more maga to find there way out of the cult.
She’s on the oversight committee and has seen the unredacted Epstein files. She’s in survival mode and that means distancing from orange Shittler right now. Nothing more.
It’s nothing more than rats jumping off a sinking ship.
Oh she’s off the coke. Good for her
No she’s gearing up for a Senate run. Trying to clean up her image so she’s more appealing to the voters in her state and not just the backwards assholes that she represents in backwater Georgia.
🄱🄸🄽🄶🄾
She’s looking at the next election.
Run for prez…
Senate. She wants a Senate seat, and Trump wouldn’t endorse her due to the fact she’s been constantly wanting to release the Epstein files.
Granted, I don’t think she believed that Trump was in the files, until he went ape shit about it.
She worshiped Trump, and still holds all the ridiculous and evil beliefs from before, but now her god has betrayed her.
And I say good.
Trump is likely going down, with or without her, so I say without.
Well according to that email, he’s already went down at least once
I just saw a quote from Michelle Obama, along the lines of the US isn’t ready for a woman president. MO might be correct, so yeah let’s have MTG run for pres. to dilute the GOP votes.
I just saw a quote from Michelle Obama, along the lines of the US isn’t ready for a woman president
Probably just making excuses for why the awful candidate her husband helped force onto the ballot failed at the most winnable presidential election since the two previous ones.
It’s looking more realistic. Twice now American voters have picked the absolute worse person imaginable over a woman.
The first time we can excuse with ignorance, but the second time around there was no excuse. We knew what he did the first round and he’s doing it again for a second.
The only logical explanation I can find is there is a subsection of the population unwilling to vote for a woman.
Obviously yes each campaign had it’s issue we can go into, but when you look at the opposition it’s hard to find the logic
Twice now American voters have picked the absolute worse person imaginable over
a womanan awful candidate who refuses to consider the wants and needs of the base and happened to be a woman.Fixed it for you. While I’d never go to such ridiculous lengths as to say that sexism isn’t a serious systemic problem, that’s not why Hillary and Kamala lost.
It wasn’t that people aren’t ready for a female president. It was that the vast majority of people to the left of fascism are more than ready for a president that listens to them more than to owner donors, strategists stuck in 1992, and other unrepresentative power brokers
The only logical explanation I can find is there is a subsection of the population unwilling to vote for a
woman“Centrist”Fixed it for you again.
Nobody except the aforementioned owner donors, strategists stuck in 1992, and other unrepresentative power brokers want “Republican mild” candidates with no substance except an almost religioud reverence for the broken system that has enabled them to fail upwards for decades.
Obviously yes each campaign had it’s issue we can go into
Understatement of the decade.
when you look at the opposition it’s hard to find the logic
Not really no. When you consider the following, it makes a sick sort of sense:
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Republicans are many times more effective at messaging. This is mainly because they’re much less likely to be constrained by such details as objective reality, ethics, and authenticity, but their propaganda is nonetheless MUCH more effective than the thrice-measured sound bytes of the Dem leadership.
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In the vast majority of states, it’s MUCH more difficult and time consuming to vote in the kinds of neighborhoods that skew more Blue and diverse than Red and filthy rich.
During covid, the number of absentee ballot dropoff points in the most populous county in Texas (Harris, almost 5 million) was decreased to ONE, all the while country clubs of a hundred members still had their own official polling station and even impoverished Red areas are typically rural so there’s not many people per polling station
- The combination of 1, 2, and other election tampering means that it takes a LOT more to get the entire Dem base to vote than for the Fascist Party base.
As a result of this, Dems NEED a candidate that’s inspiring enough that even the most jaded will go way above and beyond the amount of effort it SHOULD take in order to vote for them.
Neither Hillary nor Kamala was anywhere close to being that candidate and they wouldn’t have been if they were men either.
And before you go “but the man Biden won! Checkmate!”, I’d like to remind you that he actually won the popular vote by a smaller margin than Hillary did, and that he did so during an active pandemic that the incumbent fascist had been failing to manage so spectacularly that anything other than a landslide victory would be extremely worrying for the future of the Dem party.
I love the argument that the Dems must run the ideal canidate to beat an 80 year old fascist. That the reason Americans picked hate isn’t because they could possibly be prejudiced against women, but that they just don’t like centrists and need to be more inspired to do anything.
I think the answer is plainly far too many Americans are too hateful.
Also love the “no you can’t use the example of the male centrist winning because that would make my point bad”, solid argument
Now credit where credit is due I do think a progressive canidate would have had a much better chance. I just also believe there are too many old, sexist, hateful Americans that will never vote for a woman. Hopefully they die out and that changes
I love the argument that the Dems must run the ideal canidate
You may, but that’s not the argument I made. Please refrain from strawmen and other logical fallacies if you can.
That the reason Americans picked hate isn’t because they could possibly be prejudiced against women, but that they just don’t like centrists and need to be more inspired to do anything.
Again with the strawmen. Misrepresenting my argument isn’t a good way to bolster your own.
I think the answer is plainly far too many Americans are too hateful
Sure, you’d think that if you willfully ignore all of the contributing factors I and others have ever mentioned beyond “fascists are just voluntarily bad for no reason other than being bad” 🙄
Also love the “no you can’t use the example of the male centrist winning because that would make my point bad”
Again with the strawman. The male Centrist BARELY scraping by against the most hated incumbent in history SUPPORTS my argument.
You either have the reading comprehension of a toddler or the capacity for arguing in good faith of a Republican politician, so I’m not gonna waste any more time on your willfully obtuse ass. Have the day you deserve
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Hey dont push it, a Greene-Fuentes ticket probably would beat Newsom-Buttigieg, definitely would win against Harris and whatever cursed soul she picks as a running mate
And if the Dems don’t mount a REALLY effective campaign and candidate, she might be the leading bet for who’s gonna win.
She is the ONLY one left who captures even a sliver of Trump’s base. But she also has the appeal of people thinking they’re making a “liberal” choice with her. And make no mistake, most of the country does not follow politics or drama and know zilch about her, only that she sounds “down home country” the way she talks and she don’t wanna associate wit dat there Trump fellow after he diddled dem kids.
When media and interviews turn their eyes to her and start grilling her on the batshit things she said like jewish space lasers and so on, it will only serve to launch her higher in viewership and attention. Trump won on this tactic and Dems still worry about a “perfect candidate” who will preserve the status quo that nobody cares about outside their dusty halls of ancient pageantry and old money.
We are SO fucked.
I think enough of the MAGA base is incapable of voting for a woman that she starts in a pretty deep hole even within her party. I don’t see her getting the nomination, and if she does I see her struggling to inspire turnout in the general. Sexism impacted both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, and will be even harder for a GOP candidate to overcome.
If that is what you think, you are 40years and 2 steps behind. Misogynistic rhetoric hasn’t been en vogue since the 80’s, and if you think Hillary or Kamala lost only because they were women, you really don’t have anything useful to say and instead are leaning on the trope of “common wisdom.”
There’s literally a movement within MAGA to repeal the right of women to vote. Yes, I absolutely believe that the misogyny is present in today’s GOP. Further, multiple polls and other research studies have found that a significant number of voters in the US does not support the idea of a woman for president. Here are a few references:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1532673X251369844
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4782780-americansready-female-president-dipping-survey/
Anecdotally, Michelle Obama recently observed the same thing: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5607777-michelle-obama-us-not-ready-woman-president/
And if you combine her observation with the GOP views on women as president reflected in this pew research poll (notably “Republicans (86%) are twice as likely as Democrats (43%) to say it is not at all or not too important if they ever see a woman elected U.S. president”), I think there’s ample reason to believe that a Republican candidate for president would struggle to gain support from a statistically relevant group of voters.
And no, I do not think that Clinton And Harris lost only because they’re women. I did not say that at. Evidence suggests that misogyny was one of many factors, though.
Sexism impacted both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, and will be even harder for a GOP candidate to overcome.
What with the hypocrisy and shifting goalposts for MAGA/GOP types, a female Trump 2.0 would seem quite plausible to my eyes. These types don’t care for conserving anything in particular nor for standing up afor any fixed set of values. They are, quite literally going along with the flow.
She’ll fool enough people to have a good chance of keeping her seat at least
Nah.
This bitch doesn’t get to do that.
If she starts voting with Democrats every single time, I might consider forgiveness.
She isn’t looking for your vote, she’s looking for my parent’s vote and I’m guessing my mom is already campaigning for her. The midwest thinks things have gotten too nasty. I’ll ignore the irony of that being what they voted for time and again, but a softer (yet sterner America First) leader, well that’s in tune.
If anyone actually believes this bullshit, do me a favor and take a good look at yourself in a mirror….
Right there, what is staring back at you is exactly what got the fascist right to where they currently are;
It’s called “Gullibility.” STOP IT.
I think she makes it clear she’s only changing her tone because she is worried Trump is inflaming his base to commit violence against her. A classic case of a Republican only being empathetic when they are personally invested in the problem.
Textbook repugnantcans…110% devoted, until it impacts them.
Yeah:
“The most hurtful thing (Trump) said, which is absolutely untrue, is he called me a traitor, and that is so extremely wrong,” Greene said, “and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger.”
Despite her vitriol having put tons of other peoples’ lives or at lest livelihoods in danger, she seems to want to change when it’s aimed at her.
fucking traitor (to the US).
There’s an obligation not to believe it. If the Grinch fucks up your Christmas 10 years in a row, then tells you he’s ready to turn a new leaf, you don’t respond by telling him where you put the tree this year. You instead wonder if this is the newest trick up his sleeve, trickery. When he later does a good deed, you now wonder if he’s playing the long con here. When fellows start to advocate for the Grinch having changed, you wonder if your fellows are either naïve or in on the trick. I don’t know at what point the Grinch deserves trust, but it’s probably proportional in some way to the amount of trust they proved themselves not to deserve.
Also, if you later discover that the Grinch turned a new leaf only after discovering that the police seized his computer, found support for a pedophile in chief, and plans to make it public… then you wonder if the whole thing is just Grinch trying to survive the blowout. Grinch has been very bad.
Remember when MTG screamed at an 18 year old David Hogg that he was funded by George Soros? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Humbly, go fuck yourself.
Reflection and repentance is important, but it doesn’t immediately absolve you of all the shit you did to get to this point, and those you hurt and stepped on to get there.
Unfortunately, we got like, a good 50/50 chance of her actually being elected president in a few years with the current state of both parties unless something big changes.
MTG vs AOC would be fun
GOP would know that any woman they put against AOC would get murdered in primaries alone. They would pick the most overtly misogynistic piece of monster-shit they can find, and sadly, it would probably work.
if you havent been paying attention closely enough to notice that american voters do not want a woman in the white house im not sure what to tell you
I hear this take all the time and frankly I think it’s lazy and rooted in the same misogyny that you claim lost both Hilary and Kamala the presidency. 48% of American voters turned out for both Clinton and Harris compared to the 51% turnout for Biden.
Of the three, Biden was the only one who ran during a Republican administration and he had the additional advantage of running against Trump’s catastrophic handling of the 2020 COVID pandemic and despite all that he only took an extra 3% of the vote over Clinton and Harris.
On the flip side, both Clinton and Harris ran on maintaining the deeply unpopular status quo under their own party’s administration and attempting to appeal to the center-right whilst alienating their own base and taking their vote for granted. Despite that, 48% of American voters still turned out for them and they lost to Trump’s 46% in 2016 and <50% in 2024, a less than 2% margin in both cases.
To reduce that nuance to, “they lost because they’re women” completely ignores the fact that they ran flawed campaigns in a time of deep dissatisfaction with the status quo that they ran in support of all so you can pin their failure on their gender and perpetuate the idea that women can’t be elected to be president, something that at least 75 million American voters disagree with.
Yah because people really warmed to Harris and Clinton (despite Clinton winning the popular vote.) 🙄
Don’t worry, a lot of people will dismiss her for being a woman, but if she can wrangle trump’s base of armed patriots she has all the cards and the system will bend for her no matter what she says or does. I do understand how political capital works and why gender only matters so far in the big game.
Yeah I dont know. I work in a field where I hear a lot of the details of people’s employment stories and if I can tell you one universal thing its that women need to be 5x better than a confident sounding man in order to be taken half as seriously.
never underestimate how much the world dislikes a woman who knows more than anything than they do
I know this well, as someone in the corporate world I have been witness to just how bad it is, and faced consequences for trying to advocate for fairness.
I am saying, well aware of what a mistake it is to field a female candidate in present America, that the GOP may make the same mistake, but predictability in elections has been abandoned, and it might actually work. I don’t think the chances of this are too far off.
Rightoids: “Well she’s even more MAGA than MAGA, I 'member her talking 'bout dem jews, she may be a chick but she got my vote.”
Lefties: “She has made amends and abandoned trumpism, and we NEED a woman in charge!”
Liberals: “If I vote for a woman who basically been on both sides, does that make this the ULTRA liberal choice? Right up the middle? If it means preserving status quo I’m in!”
Everyone Else: “LAWL LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS”
She was okay less than 6 months ago, of her voters getting tased at a town hall, and was laughing at them. She is evil and playing a game right now.
She’s trying to save her own skin, nothing more. She just realized the reds are crazy now that she has a target on her back.
Of course this is not a MAGA realizing they are a shitty person. It’s just self interest to not get assassinated by some lunatic:
and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger […] It’s been something I’ve thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
Suggesting that her risk is going to drop by dropping soothing words for the lefty radicals falls to acknowledge the danger from righty radicals. Having the Cheeto pasting a target on her back means that such words will merely inflame the right even more.
Cool. Honestly and unironically, I hope so, whatever her reasons. Now go prove it.
