• dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
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    1 hour ago

    I don’t think most people joining the US military go into it thinking “yippie time to murder innocents.”

    Everyone joining the army understands fully that military force is violent and involves killing people. The army isn’t some vague concept that people are getting tricked into. Violent military force is one of the most celebrated concepts in America. What the absolute fuck are you talking about?

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      30 minutes ago

      Well I am talking about how I think most people who join the military are brainwashed.

      More explicitly: yes they know that the military is about violent force, but I think most of them have a warped worldview pressed on them from a young age (often from an upbringing in a military family) that describes the situation very differently from how you or I would see it. They are indoctrinated to understand their participation in the military as a duty - both to their family and to an inner voice. I think most of them would say (when first joining) that the military kills “bad guys,” which obviously isn’t true but they have been conditioned to see it that way and much of history (especially concerning military atrocities) is omitted from their upbringing. So in my opinion your take that they are joining with the intention of murdering innocent people isn’t really accurate for most of them.

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        23 minutes ago

        You don’t apply this logic to nazis do you? Their victims were worthy enough for you to dismiss excuses like this, but not the victims of modern imperialism. One group of victims were white Europeans, and the other group are Arab/Muslim. I see exactly who you are. You’re not slick.