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    Eyewitness testimony. Said eyewitnesses literally dying on that hill helps. As well as a religious movement spontaneously and uncontrollably erupting from it.

    Cool. That describes most religions. So either you need to convert to basically every religion at once, or you need to raise your standards of evidence.

    For a start, were the crusades really an atrocity? And the inquisitions? They were fighting against Islam.

    And Judaism, and Eastern Orthodoxy, and anyone who happened to be standing in the way of valuables. How can you possibly be this deluded about history?

    You don’t see a problem with the numerous times all Jews were expelled from their respective countries? Like when Jews in Spain, who had previously been tolerated under Islamic rule, were forced to convert, leave, or die, and many of them had to flee to Islamic countries for whatever refuge they could find there? Why the hell do you think there’s a diaspora?

    Or the crusades, when the Byzantines asked the Church for help fighting the Muslims, and the crusaders sacked and looted Constantinople, leaving them more vulnerable?

    The Bible doesn’t mandate witch burnings either.

    Then you’ll be relieved to know that Marx never mandated any sort of atrocities, so that means Marxism has a totally clean record on that front.

    None of these work. They all rely on humans. I don’t see a need to participate in that argument. Empires come and go. Whether they be feudal, theocratic, democratic or socialist. I’m more concerned with Christ’s eternal Kingdom. Christ didn’t preach an earthly political system, much to many people’s dismay at the time. All He did in regards to political systems was emphasising that people should submit to the authorities over them.

    Long haired preachers come out every night
    Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right
    But if you ask them for something to eat
    They will tell you in voices so sweet
    "You will eat, by and by, in that glorious land up in the sky!
    Work and pray, live on hay, you'll get pie in the sky, when you die" - that's a lie.
    

    The Preacher and the Slave

    Yeah, no thanks. If more people listened to your “submit to authority” bullshit, we’d still have chattel slavery. Fuck off with this bootlicking nonsense.

    You don’t think I should care about politics? Well my boss and my landlord do, and every day they’re working to make my life worse. It’s long past time to start fighting back. We didn’t start the class war. We just recognize it exists.